Do you think Nintendo will be relevent next gen?

[UltimateUnknown]

RolStoppable said:

UltimateUnknown said:

Seriously, did any 3rd parties ask for the gamepad to be included with the Wii U?

It's clear Nintendo did not bother asking 3rd parties when deciding how their console will be made. I remember Pete Hines from Bathesda saying this about the Wii U:

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This is coming from Bathesda who are a big 3rd party publisher. Just because Nintendo got a 3rd party executive on stage doesn't change how they ignored them while making the box itself. Ultimately that's why all the 3rd parties left them. The Wii U was Nintendo doing their own thing and hoping 3rd parties would support them.

Did any third party ask for the touchpad on the DualShock 4?

Bethesda never made a good game for a Nintendo platform, so they shouldn't expect to be treated like a major force. Besides, it's not like Bethesda's wishes really differ from those of EA and Warner Bros. who were on stage.

But really, it doesn't need to matter to me what you and others want to believe. If you want to believe that it's always all Nintendo's fault, that's fine. Because Nintendo has already decided that they aren't going to try another time only to get abandoned right away again; and that's the correct decision.

If you really think the touchpad on DS4 and the screen on the gamepad are on the same level in terms of manufacturing costs and functionality then I really don't know what to say.

As for your last comment, it really doesn't matter to me what you or others want to believe. If you want to believe it's always 3rd party's fault, that's fine. Because 3rd parties have already decided that they aren't going to try to support Nintendo consoles when Nintendo doesn't bother asking them about what they want. And that's the correct decision.