sc94597 said:
Zappykins said:
1. Actually no, the law allows religious feelings to override all other laws. So you could not punish an ER doctor for refusing service. That would be a violating of the law.
2 Again, no unlike the national and all other laws, Indiana's one makes a special case for Private Business. So they can do what they want or feel and can not be punished for it.
3. They didn't lose money in the suit, they lost money cause nobody else wanted to buy from them. They lost most all of their customers – bigotry is frowned upon in the USA. And they violated State Law in that case AND make cakes for 'happy Satan Day' and other things (after the refusal) that would also be a violation of their 'Christian Values' if they genuily had some (But just hated the gay.) They had also made cake for the two women, and their anniversaries for years before. They only got in legal trouble because they directly violated State Law.
4. Yes, this absolutely is a Christian version of Shiria Law. It is directly against the founding of the country (removing all religion, and the head of the state and Church being the same person, etc.) This law is against the founding principals of the USA. This law puts religion above all other laws. It's part of the reason the reaction is so huge.
5. You must not have followed the Prop 8 or DOMA cases where 'highest scrutiny' has been cited numerous times in Federal Courts. Also in In re Marriage Cases, 43 Cal.4th 757 (2008) was a California Supreme Court case where the court held that laws treating classes of persons differently based on sexual orientation should be subject to strict judicial scrutiny, and that an existing statute and initiative measure limiting marriage to opposite-sex couples violate the rights of same-sex couples under the California Constitution and may not be used to preclude them from marrying.
6. I know, isn't it fun! Let's make a 'Church of the Tax Free!'
6a Religions as used in the USA for nearly a hundred years to justify slavery (and in the areas long before that.) And Rape of women and other such wholesome activities.
PS Someone has already made a ‘Church of Cannabis.'
Even Walmart and NASCAR have come out against it. Rather amazing IMO.
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You missed the context of my post. It was about markets targetting discrimination, not government. Nothing pertaining specifically to this law.
4. No it's not. It is like saying, " if you advocate the government's involvement in the economy, it is the same thing as a communist." Rational people can calculate degrees of something, and this law is nowhere near as close to the breadth and depth in which Sharia law affects people's lives in Islamic countries (hetero and non hetero alike.)
5. That has more to do with the 14th Amendment of the U.S constitution than CRA. As it is right now, the Supreme Court hasn't said anything about same-sex discrimination. Notice "laws that treat people differently" rather than "private persons that treat people differently."
6. That seems out of context.
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4. Nah, " if you advocate the government's involvement in the economy, it is the same thing as a communist" Socialism, that is socialism. Like the Fire Department, Police, Paramedics- they serve everyone regardless of financial status. It's socialism, and I have no problem with it.
That recent case where the FD just watched and let someone who hadn’t pay some extra fee's house burn shows that it's a good idea for the good of all to protect everyone. They only started to fight it when the fire grew and spread to other people's homes. (Plus the insurance companies bill are so much higher now.)
Also the growing of resistant strains of tuberculosis are a result of Regan throwing the homeless (mentally ill) people out on the streets, AIDS and a combination of the two. If we had better universal care, the new TB would have been minimized. In the late 90’s around 1/3 of LA’s homeless population tested positive for TB.
6. Really? It's a direct consequence of the Indiana law. I think it’s funny he accidently made marijuana legal.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/acts-of-faith/wp/2015/03/30/the-first-church-of-cannabis-was-approved-after-indianas-religious-freedom-law-was-passed/
