Hiku said:
Materia-Blade said:
what video game are we talking about? first, you seem to have the wrong impression that motion controls = casual =/= core, right? you can dislike motion controls all you want but dismissing it like this doesn't make any sense. nintendo never had a tablet, let alone a $100 one (yes, I know you're talking about the gamepad, I'm ironizing because of how inaccurate it is to say it's a $100 tablet). Nintendo didn't alienate third parties, actually, some third parties alienated nintendo AND it's consumers.
p.s: I remember the ps3 did force people to pay for an expensive blu ray player and it did alienate 3rd parties due to cell's architeture. Do you think ps3 is for the core gamers?
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What videogame? All the non-Nintendo franchises and genres that people have been complaining about being absent from Nintendo consoles for decades now, with few exceptions. And now you're just playing a semantics game. Call them whatever you want. Core, casual, tablet/gamepad. The point remains the same. They forced people to use motion controls, which vastly appealed to a completely different audience. It worked fine when the casual gamers were still buying the console. But now that they're on mobile? There's a reason motion controls are not standard in any capacity, and that Microsoft even had to unbundle the Kinect. The people spoke with their wallets. They don't want to be forced to play with gimmics or pay that much extra for them.
The gamepad is a ridiculously expensive controler because of the touchscreen. Nintendo wanted a tablet like controller because they tried to catch lightning in a bottle again, and failed. Play with words all you like, this was Nintendo's mistake, not the people who they were trying to sell the console to.
And third parties alienated Nintendo? Are you serious right now? You're telling me that Nintendo wouldn't want third party games on their console? If so, this is probably the craziest viewpoint I've ever seen on this site.
No, its Konami who don't want to put MGS on their console. Capcom who don't want to put Street Fighter or Resident Evil (except Revalations 1 since its a 3DS title) on it. Square doesn't want to put Final Fantasy on it. Rockstar don't want to put GTA on it. Activision don't want to put more Call of Duty games on the console. (They got one because it was a 360 port, and no one knew how bad WiiU would sell at that point.)
It's not that Nintendo don't want third party titles. That's ridiculous. It's that developers don't want to bother making those games for WiiU.
And yes, Sony did alienate fans with their super expensive PS3. Don't you remember? Their sales suffered for it, and deservedly so. However, Sony actually did something about it. They ate millions in losses to bring down the price of the console and sold it at a loss for years, to win back consumer trust. Nintendo however have done absolutely nothing in this regard, and are still forcing people to pay full price for a tablet controler that people don't want to pay for. It's pretty much too late now though. Now it's not just the price of the console, but the lack of pretty much every single third party game in existence from here on out.
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"They forced people to use motion controls, which vastly appealed to a completely different audience."
no and no. motion controls were a dream come true for any gamer AND it appealed to a different audience. and I don't get this "they forced" that you keep repeating, there were motion focused games, traditional button only games and mixed ones.
"There's a reason motion controls are not standard in any capacity, and that Microsoft even had to unbundle the Kinect. The people spoke with their wallets. They don't want to be forced to play with gimmics or pay that much extra for them."
omg, stop. kinect is a buttonless acessory, it's sucess or failure doesn't mean motion controls are/aren't standard, that goes for the wiimote. I can hardly see someone complaining about the wii remote + nunchuck. Go ahead and say you dislike it, but you can't prove that a wii mote + nunchuck like controller (buttons and motion) isn't ideal for gaming.
"And third parties alienated Nintendo? Are you serious right now? You're telling me that Nintendo wouldn't want third party games on their console?"
I'm telling you what? what did I say about nintendo not wanting third parties? I said some third parties did alienate nintendo and consumers. Try EA games with it's "unprecedented" support and ubisoft with the watch dogs BS (after doing the very opposite with rayman, both cases screwing nintendo fans)
