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zorg1000 said:
oniyide said:

I wouldnt consider a controller as HW refinement

And as for stabbing fans in the back, its all subjective if thats what he feels it it what he feels

No, it is completely unreasonable to claim Nintendo stabbed fans in the back with Wii. If someone didn't like the console or games, that's fine, it still doesn't mean Nintendo betrayed anybody.

Nintendo published titles like Mario Galaxy 1+2, Metroid Prime 3, Twilight Princess, Xenoblade Chronicles, Donkey Kong Country Returns, among others. It's impossible to claim such titles aren't high-quality regardless if one likes them or not.

I think for him it was Ninty going the whole family route that might have him believe that they left core gamers out in the cold. I dont really agree and I can only speculate but, its kind of weird to say its unreasonable to think so. Maybe it is. Lets hear why he thinks so.