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I enjoy the wii and i guess you can consider me a hardcore gamer. I've been playing video games since I was three and also I spent 21 hours raising the levels of my characters in Lost Oddessy and I only started disc two. And I guess the wii is improving the image of gamers but most people are gamers anyway. My older sister for example loves super mario bros and super mario world but teases me for playing games like Gears or Dark Sector saying im violent and so are people that play those games.