Mario & Sonic at Olympics (Wii) has done it!!!

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disolitude said:

Viper1 said:

disolitude said:

Viper1 said:

disolitude said:
To be honest this pisses me off a lot... I love sega... But lets say M&S (which is an ok game at best) sells 4 million and Condemned 2(amazing game) sells 500K tops. M&S couldn't have cost more than 1/5th of what Condemned 2 cost to make...

The odds of condemned 3 are highly unlikely yet im sure we will se M&S polka dancing in the near future.

This sucks for all gamers is what I'm saying. If MGS4 is a $ failure I'm sure Konami will move its major studios to focus on making kitty petting simulators... Hello kitty indeed...

Don't blame poor sales of expensive games on the budget titles.    If a developer decides to stop producing big budget titles, it isn't because budget games are sellind so great, it's because their expensive games went bust.

 

Tell me, would you continue to bleed money game after game if it failed to bring in profit?

 

No I wouldn't. But as a gamer/consumer this doesn't really concern me. I want to see good games sell well and get sequels. Lately I've seen a trend of a lot crappy games selling great... and this only adds more fuel to that argument. Hence why my displeasure with M&S...I have the same displeasure with Kane and Lynch and Army of 2.  Sega of early to late 90's would take this money now and make Panzer Dragoon 3, some totally wierd and off the wall titles that would become calssics in 10 years and Shenmue 3...and would probably go broke after with the current trend in gaming.

 So you basically demand that developers create high budget software at a loss for your own benefit?  Why not demand they sell the games at no profit too while you're at it?    You can't have the cake and eat it too.   Demand all you want but if the developer can't profit from it, don't expect to see it happening.  And as the relationship between consumer and provider is correlated, I'd say it concerns you very much.

I dont understand what we are arguing about. Im angry at the consumers for buying crappy games not at companies for making them...

So you are saying that every game you buy, you justify its existence by looking at howmuch profit it makes? I find that hard to believe as im sure that some of your favourite games also may not have profited as much. As a gamer all I care about is if the game is good or not. The whole profit thing comes in after when I enjoyed the game and hope they make a sequel... And when I see a company get by on crappy games (EA for example) I tend to get upset. Hence why I posted my displeasure...

Also, I don't bleieve they you'd rather want M&S olympics 2 rather than game like Shenmue 3...despite the fact M&S will pull in a much bigger profit I'm sure 99% of gamers who played it would like Shenmue 3 to come out isntead despite profit or loss. We just have to cope with the fact that casual gamer is becoming the main type of gamer...

Why would Sega make another M+S game right now?  It's still selling.  As it still sells, its basically free money.  If they made another, they would probably stop sales of this one for another game that might not have legs of titanium.  What Sega will probably do, is take this money and put it into Samba di Amigo, or NiGHTS, or Valkyria Chronicles, or Iron Man, or Sonic Unleashed... (etc.)

When you have a game with legs like this, you don't rush the sequel.  You let it keep selling as long as you can, and puta sequel on the back-burner with a budget reserved, and just keep letting it print money. Especially if you have other monetizable assets to develop in the meantime.