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kowenicki said:
Scoobes said:

Not entirely true. If you were a serial rapist and child murderer you would be arrested as soon as you got to the airport/dock because there would almost certainly be a European Arrest Warrant filed.

Not if you had served your sentence.... I admit you are probably serving life for that, but what does that actually mean these days, there are plenty of child murderes on the loose after serving time.

If I live in Italy and have a record for violence there is nothing to stop me from travelling to the UK where becuase I am a thug I manage to get  into a fight in a pub on my first day here.  Unfortunately I badly break my arm but manage to make my escape. 

I simply walk to the hospital and get free treatment, not forgetting to make an apopintment at the local job centre plus to claim my benefits as I am unfit for work. 

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/alice-gross-murder-prime-suspect-4377934

He strolls into this country as a convicted murderer... no questions asked... murders again.

HOW is that right?

 

 

It's not, and the EU has problems. My point was that it's easier for escaping criminals to get arrested when they try and move through the EU.

Even with all the problems the EU brings, I think it's still in our best interests to stay in. If Cameron could renegotiate our position then great (although I don't have much faith in him). But I don't see the point of jumping out of the EU and still being dictated by a lot of their economic rules. Afterall, we would still need to trade with them but instead of little influence we would have no influence to dictate policy.

There are also other benefits to being in the EU. One that often gets overlooked by most people (because it's not their field) is the advantages to Research (Uni and smaller startups). We get a lot of money from the EU specifically for Research purposes. For every £1 they put in, our economy benefits 3-fold from the discoveries and the companies that start up from the findings (not to mention the extra jobs). But that's overlooking the simple fact that a lot of our research in this country is now collaborative and jumping out of the EU would seriously hinder our place in the World. We currently punch well above our weight in the science and technology sectors. We have a good number of small and medium sized businesses spinning out of university research and none of this would be possible if the research collaborations weren't in place. Swiss R&D for instance has taken a significant hit in recent years simply down to the lack of significant collaboration with instituitions outside the country.