What does Putin want with Ukraine

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TheJimbo1234 said:

mai said:

Stealth planes are seen on radars, the military jet has been spotted near MH17 before it crashed by ELINT.

 

Anything else, or should I go for a third round of repeating the same arguments for slow people?

By definition shrapnel is plural, so why did you say "a shrapnel"?

Post proof of US propoganda. Last I checked, it was a free and open country so why all of a sudden are you claiming it is not?

What proof is it that they are Ukr? I don't see any flags or markings on them, or that the footage is even legit.

I'm here to debate, not educate. Go learn the issue with MH17 and transponders on your own.

What proof is there that the SBU have faked evidence?

Well that is a claim and a half about jets - got proof? And no, stealth is not seen on radar as that is the whole point.

I think he believes that everyone who doesn't share his view is brainwashed by western propaganda and the only news that's is true/neutral are those who share Russias views.

Heck he even called my country.

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=6983352

"Philipines do look like typical US client state and therefore a proxy." Because we consider China as the bigger threat and not the US.

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Anyway IMO Russian troops are present in East Ukraine. I remember reading Putins denial of Russias presence in Crimea

http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/2014/03/04/285653335/putin-says-those-arent-russian-forces-in-crimea

"he told reporters that the heavily armed men are "local self-defense forces.""

Then

http://uk.reuters.com/article/2014/04/17/russia-putin-crimea-idUKL6N0N921H20140417

""We had to take unavoidable steps so that events did not develop as they are currently developing in southeast Ukraine," Putin said in a televised call-in with the nation. "Of course our troops stood behind Crimea's self-defence forces.""

 

Obviously this are all just my opinion.