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mai on 11 January 2015
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tiffac said:
mai said:

I'm not quite getting this kind of sentiments from people from anti-Chinese coalition nations the US is building up in the South China Sea. I could understand a political sense behind this, but don't see why regular people have problems with Chinese. Even if I put myself in the shoes of Vietnamese or Filipino shouldn't I be more of anti-Americanist given previous conflicts with the US cost them both at least 2m and 200 thousands of civilian deaths respectively? So even if we consider China is "evil", shouldn't it be lesser evil in people's minds even though that is totally subjective?

And if anything South China Sea is a pot with a lot of holes, which could be easily closed military-wise and on which PCR depends (energy imports, commodities exports). Resource grab doesn't sound convincing, but threat of economic blockade if very much real. So it makes a lot of sense to build up military infrastructure there. They're desperate enough to build artificial islands solely for that purpose.

China is the clear and present danger. The Americans may be building up but they ain't taking or claiming territories away. China has no excuse on that one and the American conflict is in the WAY past for us, unlike in Vietnam which happened in the 60's to 70's but on the other hand we did get rid of them and closed the American bases.

There is oil and natural gas in the Spratlys which is part of the South China Sea. It is the most contested part but China happens to want it and everything else.

Also, communism has a bad seed here in the Philippines called the New Peoples Army, they have become hooligans instead of freedom fighters. While there are Anti-American groups, they aren't as big anymore as they were before because of what the NPA has become.

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If China is clear and present danger while the US (or rather global oligarchy) is not it's only a sign of political shortsightedness. Don't take my word for granted, you may research the history of that limitroph-o-land between Russia's and Germany's borders before and during WW2. So you could get an idea of the historical fate of various proxies, which for the most part were ruled by nationalistic, revanchist or fascistic regimes at the time. E.g. the fate of 2nd Polich Republic should be the most revaling -- annex part of Czechoslovakia along with Germany and Hungary only to follow the same fate next year -- probably nor Moscicki, nor Rydz-Smigły would have thought that's a possibility. I beg a pardon in advance, I'm no expert in Philippine-American political affairs, but from here Philipines do look like typical US client state and therefore a proxy.

Consider this, how much from 40bln Uncle Sam owes you is going to be paid, ever? Compare credit and emission based economy of the US to the Chinese one that produces actual commodities and therefore could pay with real wealth. But if you want to extend the life of this neo-colonial system at your own expense instead, sure, why not.