What does Putin want with Ukraine

[TheJimbo1234]

mai said:

TheJimbo1234 said:

A shrapnel? Seriously?

Seriously? Reformulate your thought if you actually have one so it could be addressed.

TheJimbo1234 said:

So you want black box recordings of every disaster released? Why?? Oh, but you believe the govt of one of the most corrupt and propoganda heavy nations. Ok, go nuts.

No, I do not trust US propaganda on this as they are interested party here.

TheJimbo1234 said:

Why would the Ukarianes have BUKs stationed? Because the rebels were using planes? Oh wait..*rollseyes*

They have been stationed there it is a fact they do not deny. Here's Ukrainian Buk near Soledar, early March of 2014.

TheJimbo1234 said:

You don't know what a transponder is so don't debate about it.

Enlighten me.

TheJimbo1234 said:

Of course they would take the recordings. They would want to see if the pilots said anything about missiles being seen.

They? The very same SBU that has been faking evidences? So where're the recordings now? 

TheJimbo1234 said:

As I said - Ukr don't have stealth planes so radar would have picked them up.

Stealth planes are seen on radars, the military jet has been spotted near MH17 before it crashed by ELINT.

 

Anything else, or should I go for a third round of repeating the same arguments for slow people?

By definition shrapnel is plural, so why did you say "a shrapnel"?

Post proof of US propoganda. Last I checked, it was a free and open country so why all of a sudden are you claiming it is not?

What proof is it that they are Ukr? I don't see any flags or markings on them, or that the footage is even legit.

I'm here to debate, not educate. Go learn the issue with MH17 and transponders on your own.

What proof is there that the SBU have faked evidence?

Well that is a claim and a half about jets - got proof? And no, stealth is not seen on radar as that is the whole point.