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spemanig said:
Qwark said:

Who says I am not going to, I am dutch and know quite a few things of watermanagement quite handy since we covered quite a few of those problems worldwide and you guys in the US could surely use some help. But Europe is still a Western continent although I doubt if it will stay that way for the next century. Losing a culture which has formed most of the human rights alongside with North America is a shame, the cultural loss would be massive since more than one or two things came from Europe. So for that alone I would like Europe to remain Western, but if that isn't possible no point of staying on a sinking ship. 


...A sinking ship. Because different cultures are mixing in EU? Europe won't be considered a western continent to you, because it's accepting muslims? It's "losing culture" because they're being inclusive?

Right. I shouldn't be in this thread.


You've not read most it did you a greater ammount of mixing a single culture in Europe wih the Western one will mean a direct change of politics in Europe since our political system is based on political parties if large groups of muslims will vote for a big single muslim party or win votes by being muslim supportive that is possible in Europe or better said the way our politics work. When that happens and it probably will in one hundred years Europe will become a hybrid continent with a lot of friction between parties since people can't live all to well together when they are culturally different. Look at Israel, The Middle East, Africa to many (or some not very well mixing) cultures on a small area results in friction.

And then mixing cultures will convert to driving out the original ones like we did in the US, New Zealand and Canada and I take it you don't care to much for our Jews either since antisemitism is already going trough the roof, imagine a further mixing. We've accepted muslims best way we can yet thousands (4 or 5 by now) are fighting for IS right now well being born and raised in Europe and imagine what happens when they come back.  We've seen the events in Paris and Copenhagen, believing this will not happen again is delussive, yet taking a passport isn't possible anymore. 



Please excuse my (probally) poor grammar