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Materia-Blade on 06 March 2015
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Mummelmann said:
Materia-Blade said:

I think we would see far more than 9.5 million in 28 months if third parties were professional and released games for the machine. The lack of third parties are the reason why wii u didn't sell much, not the other way around(third parties not being there because the console doesn't sell, that's BS). Surely you cannot fail to see that?

Also, did we see a massive drop in support for ps3 and x360 after their rough start? Did we see good support for wii u at any point? NO.


Number one; the 360 and PS3 never had anywhere near the catastrophic numbers the Wii U has shown. And did you miss the part where the PS3 lost a bunch of support due to slow start, being a year after the 360 and being dodgy to program for? This "everyone has it in for Nintendo" conspiracy has gone way too far, others suffer as well when they make mistakes, and they have the same kind of fans who excuse everything they do. Sony lost exclusivity on Final Fantasy and Metal Gear Solid series; this is easily among the biggest software news in two decades. The main difference between Sony, MS and Nintendo is that the former two seem to learn from their mistakes and they adapt to the market and end user rather than expecting/hoping for the market and end user to adapt to them, and this is a huge part of the current problems we see in the weekly charts.

Number two; what incentive did 3rd parties have to develop for and publish on the Wii U? The Wii crashed completely while the PS3 and 360 kept on going, the combined installed base of the PS3/360 and a decimated Wii concept made it a no-brainer for most and 3rd party games kept on selling well on these platforms, the incredibly clumsy Gamepad didn't do the Wii U any favors either, people who want tablet audiences to give them money would rather opt for developing mobile games.

The Gamepad was a huge mistake from the beginning and I said as much in spring 2012, about six months before the Wii U released. The numbers were seeing is not some grand conspiracy or 3rd parties willing themselves to stay away from Nintendo out of childish spite; it is due to Nintendo being forced early into the 8th gen when the Wii crashed and a succession of really poor choices, and Iwata's continued insistence that "one game can shift the fortunes of the Wii U" shows that they are willing to keep on making bad decisions and you should be a lot more worried about that at the moment, in my humble opinion.

PS: Mirrored posts with "I'm rubber, you're glue" type of rhetoric does not impress me in the slightest.

Lt's see what's wrong with your post.

The wii u isn't "dodgy" to program and never really had support at the same time ps4 and x1 were getting more support before even releasing. Those are facts.

"Sony lost exclusivity on Final Fantasy and Metal Gear Solid series; this is easily among the biggest software news in two decades."

How is that big software news? I'ts just two games going multi.

"Number two; what incentive did 3rd parties have to develop for and publish on the Wii U?"

The same incentive they have to develop and publish for ps4 and x1.

"The Wii crashed completely while the PS3 and 360 kept on going"

It took the wii what? 5 years to start selling low? that's not crashing. And ps360 kept going, but they never soared in the first place.

"the combined installed base of the PS3/360 and a decimated Wii concept made it a no-brainer for most and 3rd party games kept on selling well on these platforms"

For wii too. But games can't sell if they don't exist. Wii had plenty of third party releases up to 2010. It's hard to sell third party games after that when third party games aren't releasing.

"it is due to Nintendo being forced early into the 8th gen when the Wii crashed and a succession of really poor choices"

Again, wii didn't crash. You think 6 YEARS after the predecessor is being forced early into the next gen? that's one year later than previous nintendo consoles. The gamepad is no mistake. I would particularly make something different but how can you say a controller with extra features is a mistake? It's no different than a controller with new buttons: everything you already are used to is still there and the new stuff is optional.

What I see is a console that had no reason to be ignored by third parties but is being ignored anyway. And not only that, the third parties also insulted the console's fanbase several time and people like you agree with them. A company blaming the consumer and getting away with it is an absurd that only happens on the gaming industry.