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JustBeingReal said:
bunchanumbers said:
JustBeingReal said:
bunchanumbers said:
No. Nothing will be like the Wii. It was a cultural phenomenon. There are already too many other companies making VR headsets. The only one that was really out with motion controls when it launched was Wii. Plus they had the games for it at launch.

I think psNow will be PS5 in the future. Easy access and Sony finally gets full control of all aspects of the system, because its streaming.


A platform going completely streaming based is reliant on the internet being 100% reliable, but that's never going to happen until each household has a system that can't malfunction.

There will always be physical hardware, that handles the local processing of games. No doubt the cloud will be a feature of 9th gen and consoles that come out beyond that, but it will never take over while the internet lacks reliability. There's also the matter of costs, if people aren't willing to pay for a regular subscription model, on top of PS Plus or XBL then there's very little reason to go all out on the streaming side of the platform.

Going for the full streaming based model is pointless when developers can already make huge worlds on the current generation of consoles and PC. We have games like No Man's Sky and WiLD coming out this year, one offers an environment the size of Europe, the other procedurally generates an ever expanding galaxy worth of planets to explore, the next generation of consoles will be able to take that even further, hell this generation will as well, because over time developers will optimize their code on current systems to get more out of them, the same things will happen next gen, basically pushing games several orders of maginitude further than what we have this generation.

 

Cloud based consoles would also have issues of latency for the user, so any kind of seamless experience won't compete with what will be possible on local hardware.

But there is a big reason for Sony going streaming on PS5. Developers, publishers, and Sony will have full control of the games. There will be no second hand sales and everything will be profit for publishers. I'm thinking that the pure profit margins and low cost of 'hardware' will be the reason why Sony will do this. Their hardware will be a access box that costs less than a Vita TV and will feature easy access features like being able to play on mobile, tablets, and smart TVs. There will be too many convenience features to pass up for most consumers.

Will there be less sales from developing countries and countries with poor internet? Probably. But I think that it will be worth it in the end because they will have tons of people who will be interested in it.

It's anti-consumer, everyone's seen the backlash Microsoft got for trying to force 24 hour connections and anti-used games on customers, it's illogical to think that Sony would build their next platform around that, especially when the hardware available will be plenty capable of producing a huge upgrade from what we have today, cloud focused systems aren't needed, they're a crutch, better to have it as a feature for use in titles like MMOs or for dedicated servers, not be all your platform is about.

Publishers have the option this generation to use DRM, but they know customers won't go for it, they'd rather get people to buy their games than limit them with DRM control.

People will never go for being tied into a subscription based system like they have on their mobiles phone contracts or their Sky TV plans, they want to buy their console day one and then buy the games they want, maybe pay £40/$50 a year for PS+ that gives them access to a load of games and ability to play online in retail games, paying more than that isn't something they want, I know this because it's all people said when the rumors of a potential similar thing could have happened this generation.

Physical hardware is going to happen again, because it's always worked, people don't want to not be able to access their games when their internet goes down, everyone, in every country, even those with the best internet infrastructures in the world has instances of internet connections not working in their homes, if your system is built relying on that, you lose access to all of your games when you internet stops working, it's ridiculous to build your console around that kind of a limitation, especially when these Vita TV style boxes will still need to have a processor, RAM and everything you'd build into a console anyway.

 

Latency is another factor, it would be present in all games, because it's a law of physics that broadband cannot overcome and you want to have that in all games? LOL no my friend, we'll have generations more of physical consoles, you buy throughout each generation, maybe digital games will become gradually more popular, but still there will be a copy of the game on your hard drive, you'll play that on your console, just like this generation and the last before it.


MS is working on prediction technology that is supposed to reduce latency to almost zero. When this happens I wouldn't be surprised if they trot out their Rio service. Sony would be wise to copy this technology from MS.

As for not being able to access internet, if your home internet goes down, you will be just as easily be able to pull out your phone or tablet and keep gaming as though you were never disconnected. There will be tons of ways to keep playing without missing a beat. You'll be able to play your full console games on your way to work, at work, on your way home from work, and at home. It will be too convenient to pass up for most consumers.

As for the physical media always being around and the like, even that is going away. People don't care as much for collecting DVDs or Blurays when they can just as easily fire up Netflix and stream all their shows and not feel like they were ripped off at all. Same thing applies here. Hundreds of games at your disposal and it only costs you a monthly fee? And you can take your games everywhere with you? It will happen. I'm predicting next gen. Some are predicting the generation after, but its going to happen. I hate to say it but you should brace yourself for it.