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IMO I think the nation threads are a good thing. I'll be giving my view on the empire thread because it's the only one I comment in. I think the Xbox empire thread was mainly created to have Xbox discussion without the constant trolling and bashing that happened before it. Nsanity for example was a fantastic user that posted so much xbox news on the forum but his threads didn't get much decent discussion because there were always trolls flaming and derailing. Result was almost every xbox fan got baited and banned or left due to the toxic environment. I think you can count the Xbox fans left just before Empire on your hands. So I think it's a bit hypocrite some mods are now complaining about the succes of the nation threads because that succes lies in their failure to moderate this place and ban the rotten apples ( though you guys are making progress now on a positive note). So instead of complaining or even thinking about deleting them ( which would be so stupid, this forum would lose a lot of people) the mods should try to make the general forums a better place. I think if the general forum wasn't that toxic towards Xbox a lot more Empire people would post there and make threads.