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freebs2 on 17 February 2015
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oniyide said:
freebs2 said:

And yet, the Wii had the best selling Zelda ever made, the best selling 3D Mario, the best selling Smash Bros, the 2nd best selling Donkey Kong, The 3rd best selling 2D Mario game. Those are not casual games.

The world is not black and white, there are multiple shades of gray. Nintendo could have tried to mantain a good share of the Wii "expanded" audience, but the WiiU did a terrible job at it. That's because Nintendo made bad decisions, not beacuse that market is "gone".

The Wii was specifically designed to "break barriers", to make games more accessible. The Wii had a purpose (a coherent market proposition) the WiiU hasn't. If they wanted Wii users to upgrade to a new console, they should have asked themselves: what the next console will offer to the expanded audience that the wii doesn't offer already? Some possible awnsers could have been: less expansive games (due to digital distribution), more games and variety (expanding 1st party studios), cross-buy games, amibos, more connectivity and social media integration, more services like netflix, etc. etc.

Of course the awnser shouldn't have been better graphics, plus a very expansive and complicate gamepad.

Now my point is not that Nintendo should have run after the more casual crowd at all costs. My point is Nintendo should have made a clear and coherent market proposition (like they did with the Wii - it's very affordable and accessible but if you liked the GC it still has Mario, Zelda and Metroid). If they wanted a more casual share of the market they should have made an accessible console, if they wanted a more hardcore fanbase they should have made their console more similar to Ps4/Xbone. Nintendo right now is stuck in the middle and doesn't really appeal to anyone, minus a share of their hardcore fans.


im pretty sure OOT is still the best selling one. But as you said yourself its not black and white. Those sales only tell us a part of the story. Now why didnt people return in droves to play those games for Wii U? Can it be possible that although they did buy them they figured; "these are for me?" And never wanted to play those again? Or just got tired?

Yes, my bad OOT is still the best selling. A certain % of users in the end doesn't like game and gets tired of it pretty quickly, this happens to every game on every platform. Since, as I said, the world is not black and white some will end up not liking the game, someone will like it enough to buy a sequel someone won't, again this happens with every game on every platform. The goal of every publisher is to minize churn rates and to get as many new adopters as possible, Nintendo made very poor decisions in doing so, both as a console maker and publisher. About why those people aren't returning in droves to play those games again on WiiU, I'm pretty sure I've already explained my point in the post above.