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thechinesenoob said:


Also about Nintendo support, Nintendo actually hosted many many Brawl tournaments at gamespot themselves when it was released and supported it with their own national spotlight tournament similar to how they did for SSB4.  Their sponsorship also hardly affects Melee attendance since they literally contributed nothing to the prize pool, Melee setups, venue search, transportation, etc.  APEX 2015 is the first tournament that Nintendo was a main sponsor for, and practically everyone I talked to in the smash community, including SSB4 players, thought it was negative contribution.  

But anyways I already gave you all the numbers and statistics that show why Melee is primed for it's greatest year ever and if you don't believe it then that's your opinion but I can tell you as someone who currently actually attends competitive Melee tournaments and has no plan to stop in the foreseeable future that it's not going anywhere.  I personally know 3 people that plan on attending their first ever Melee tournament this month, and many more who plan on starting later this year.  The fact that a freaking Arcadian nowadays can have as many participants as the largest tournaments hosted in the golden age of Melee is astounding.  I'm not exactly sure why you seem to want Melee to fail (not sure if you actually do, but it comes off like that), but I personally am rooting for SSB4 to succeed even as a Melee player, and I know that my local community at least won't stop playing Melee any time soon because of SSB4.


This is a criticism I have for Melee fans as they think anyone who doesn't see things the same way wants Melee to fail, I'm an FGC member and see things from that point of view and not how Melee fans personally want to see it, I assure you Nintendo's involement has more then what you want to acknowledge for a start it's them simply allowing the game to be at Evo in the last two years when initially they wanted to block it had a big factor. Evo gave Melee massive exposure, I even remember FGC memers saying Melee was a waste of slot for the tournament and still do, those two Evos did more for creating exposure then any other tournament or any documentary, a promotional at gamespot pales in comparison to what Nintendo is doing now to push the series. Melee fans may not like it but it's the future and it's something SF fans went through over a decade ago, they were a splintered community as well with fans who even held SF2's approach as gold the same way Melee fans do with their game.

You seem to think that we're saying Melee is going to stop over the next year and are arguing from that view point when I'm pointing out Melee will enter the same mode of transition as other big fighting games, everything you've highlighted statistics, hype and so on games like Third Strike etc... had them, non of this that you've said convinces me otherwise that Melee will still be the most prominant Smash game when the next Smash game arrives. In the long run I don't see it, even if Melee is able to run along side S4 it'll be replaced by a game with a similar approach, SFIV took SF2's approach and put its own spin on it replacing the latter game completely, if you think people want Melee to fail I'll simply say you're coming across as how another user put it earlier as fearing Melee not being as releveant in the long run.

Melee is not as easy to access as you think I'll point out one massive factor that Melee fans are overlooking, the Smash scene outside the US, over here in Europe access to Melee is trickier and the PAL version of the game is patched differently so if you want to be competitive you either need an NA copy of the game with hardware that can play it or you're exclusively stuck to the EU scene, this also mean Project M is non existent over here as you need an NA copy of Brawl for that as well. The Smash scene over here is growing as well and it's easier to connect with S4 then Melee as the latter you need to actually go to active communities who before this year had no proper way of connecting with each other like people in NA do. The Melee scene here is still very much underground with some elite groups which is why a new site had to be launched to connect the Smash scene through out the continent, as a result the scene here is more open to anything that isn't Melee. Japan also seem more open to S4 as well and the vastly improved online helps connects communities, Melee is a strong force in the US which is its main region but the community growing doesn't mean NA only, in the long run communities outside NA which are more open to other approaches will grow to sizes where they can compete with US. The Luigi player who won a tournament weeks back in S4 was a UK player who beat the likes of Leffen who was using Diddy, I can tell you as a UK resident local Smash communities are not easy to come by over here which is why the aren't many UK based Smash players despite the fact we're prominant in games like SF, if you want to be competitive you have to grind with a friend, S4's For Glory mode is a God send for competitive players over here and can help S4 overcome what Melee couldn't over here.