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Wonktonodi on 05 February 2015
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freebs2 said:
Wonktonodi said:

Decent list but hardly more choices than today. Those indie games you choose to ignore from bias, ignorance or laziness don't take away the huge amount of choice everyone else has. Those indie also give choices within genres not just choices of genres. Your initial argument was gta sells well because people don't have choices. Yet how many games just with that type of gameplay do consumers have to choose from? In addition to the thousands of other games they could spend their money on. 

GTA sells because it's a will known quality product not because consumers have less choice than they used to.

I've never denied GTA sells because it's a quality game, in fact GTA used to sell a lot even before (btw I've bought GTA3, VC, SA, Chinatown Wars, and 5, I know it's a quality game). The initial argument was: Ps4 had many million sellers in a short time because gamers are more dedicated, we weren't debating the quality of the GTA series. Also, I don't ignore what indie developers, I know what the PSN offers right now, there are some good and original games indeed, but still not at all comparable to quality and variety I've mentioned before.

That's my opinion anyway, you're entitled to have a different one, but you're not entitled to call me lazy or ignorant for this.


If you refuse to look at all the games available on the system now because they fall into a group called indie, you my opinion of you that I'm also aloud to have is that you are either ignorant of the games. Though people like me tell you they are there. Or you are too lazy to actually check them out. In addition people don't have to spend money for games they don't want if they aren't happy with the games on the system. They can and do spend money elsewhere. Or wait for games they want. You might not think that the quality of choice is what is been on other systems that's opinion, but quantity just the number of choices is much more. You have to toss out games with various qualifiers that don't stop then from being games people can spend money on instead of another. Furthermore the number of million sellers is even more impressive when you think of all the digital sales that aren't counted by the major retail trackers.