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cookingyourmama said:
Seece said:
joeorc said:
Seece said:
XB1 will have needed to ship 13m not 12.5m, IMO :)

It's pretty obvious 360 is second imo, and has been all along.

It just can't be confirmed (and never will be likely.)


Are you sure?

Here is a point that I think many are in fact missing, Microsoft down production on all Xbox platforms in June of last year and that included the xbox360, while Sony did not!

Based on that info is if Sony is out in production, and Microsoft is in down Production, than would that mean there is in fact a good chance Microsoft has or had a surplus of existing console units that were made but not sold yet due to having to cut down production number's /month for each platform they make! And that based on the fall Christmas season waited to shift more to the fall and let what was on the shelf sell first?

Why do you think Microsoft has not really talked about increasing the production of units? And increasing its output?

Take a look at the fall section of deals they had on existing units that were listed as limited run, but yet they had more than just a few, as a matter of fact many people show off pictures of the stock Microsoft had in stores to sell, along with heavy promotions on said limited boxed bundles.

If the production of units was selling at a much faster pace, that would be a key point of increasing production for the month per system right?

I think it Answere's itself 

Because they At Microsoft do not need too because there demand was not until fall season and even than they had an existing surplus or units, and since Sony ships to more countries than Microsoft it is very unlikely Microsoft has outshipped Sony, not on the xbox360 or the xbox one.

In my opinion, with no talk about production increase, that is the largest key point i think.

Link, because we know 360 outshipped PS3 in 2014, so that doesn't sound right at all

No it is not a fact the 360 outshipped the ps3 in 2014 you cannot keep saying this.

Even with your 12.5m XB1 figure you realise this wouldn't change things? XB1 would have to be at 12.8m (for a draw). That still doesn't go anyway to proving his theory about 360 winding down faster than PS3.