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Wonktonodi said:
freebs2 said:

No, I'm not chainging argument. Imo, indie games aren't capable (or are not yet cabale) to replace the medium budgdet games we had some years ago. And yes, there's much less choice and variety today, the Ps2 in its first year had Final Fantasy X (a pure rpg), SSX and Tony Hawk (very specific arcade sport games and), Devil My Cry (new IP - hack/slash), Ico (adveture/puzzle), Silent Hill 2 (pure survival horror), Jak & Daxter (pure plaftorm), Metal Gear Solid 2 (stealth), Twisted Metal (arcade racer), Ace Combat and Starwars Starfighters (arcade aerial shooters), Tekken Tag, Dead Or Alive, GTA3, Gran Turismo 3.

Decent list but hardly more choices than today. Those indie games you choose to ignore from bias, ignorance or laziness don't take away the huge amount of choice everyone else has. Those indie also give choices within genres not just choices of genres. Your initial argument was gta sells well because people don't have choices. Yet how many games just with that type of gameplay do consumers have to choose from? In addition to the thousands of other games they could spend their money on. 

GTA sells because it's a will known quality product not because consumers have less choice than they used to.

I've never denied GTA sells because it's a quality game, in fact GTA used to sell a lot even before (btw I've bought GTA3, VC, SA, Chinatown Wars, and 5, I know it's a quality game). The initial argument was: Ps4 had many million sellers in a short time because gamers are more dedicated, we weren't debating the quality of the GTA series. Also, I don't ignore what indie developers, I know what the PSN offers right now, there are some good and original games indeed, but still not at all comparable to quality and variety I've mentioned before.

That's my opinion anyway, you're entitled to have a different one, but you're not entitled to call me lazy or ignorant for this.