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platformmaster918 said:
MTZehvor said:
platformmaster918 said:
MTZehvor said:
DolPhanTendo said:
Glad the Cheaters get away with another thing on their list. NFL is disgusting right now and Goodell needs to fucking go!!!

Ah, yes. The only thing this Super Bowl celebration was missing was a butthurt Dolphins fan.

hey they could win 10 superbowls but it's impossible to ignore their clear disregarding of the rules.  They really are forever tainted.

And this is precisely why I didn't bother to answer you seriously at first.

I gave a clear explanation as to how not only does Spygate have no proveable link to any of the first 3 Super Bowls, and there's been nothing but conflicting (at best) evidence involving Deflategate, and all of that gets ignored and instead it's just "wah cheated wah"

Too much haterade being drunk.

I disagree with your "explanation."  There's been plenty of evidence that they were doing far more than you're letting on during the spygate years.  I would be a hater if I accused the Steelers or Giants of cheating to win their 2 recent superbowls because there's been no evidence of them doing any such thing.  It took them years after their cameras were taken before they were able to finally win another and it comes only after they've been caught in other breaking of rules?  Too much evidence that they can't win legitimately to give them full credit.

Then by all means, present some of that evidence. If you can show me anything outside of that one Herald article that was retracted, I'll be more than willing to change my opinion appropriately.

As for the "they haven't won since Spygate" argument, I believe this to once again be a major case of assuming causation with mere correlation. The Pats' actual record is better post Spygate than pre Spygate; they've made it to just as many Super Bowls (and now won one), and more AFC Championship games. I'll grant that it's been quite some time since they took home the Lombardi, but I'd argue that has something to do with two of the more incredible catches in Super Bowl history taking place than some vast disadvantage the Patriots were at because they couldn't...cheat now or something (never mind that the actual act of taping from the location that they were was legal when they won 3 Super Bowls). Not to take anything away from the Giants; they played quite well in both Super Bowls and were worthy champions, but I think it's a little silly to directly contribute a lack of Super Bowl victories to being post Spygate considering how utterly crazy the endings to the two games were.