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Soundwave on 02 February 2015
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zorg1000 said:
Soundwave said:

Actually COD, AC, Batman, FIFA, and Madden are probably 5 of the top 8-9 third party IP on the market today. And Zombi U was a fairly decent launch game to go with that. 

It had decent support at launch. Yeah FIFA and Madden weren't quite up to date but the others were decent enough. The launch just was extremely poor and the games did not sell. It had better third party games at launch than the Wii, Vita, or 3DS did. 

Why should third parties continue to support a system that doesn't have a good outlook for third party sales? This is like the single guy blaming the girl at the bar for not picking on his half-assed advances at the bar and not giving him more time to get to know the real him. After 10 minutes of listening to the guy, can you blame the girl for wanting to go back to the table to sit with her friends? 

The onus was on Nintendo here to come out swinging and show from day 1 that they had changed their stripes, they failed miserably, in this business other companies don't have time to sit around and wait for one company to get their sh*t together. 

Again most of that is irrelevant, like I said u are correct that Nintendo did not make a console with 3rd parties in mind, but that does not change the fact that oniyides claim is incorrect.

If 3rd parties supported Wii U then we would have seen 3rd party releases in the post launch as well. Where was Metal Gear Rising, Dead Island, Bioshock, Colonial Marines, Devil May Cry, Saints Row, Grand Theft Auto, Metro, Tomb Raider, Dead Space, XCOM? These were all 3rd party games that released during Wii U's first year that were never planned to release on Wii U. Sales were not the reason Wii U didn't get these games like Oniyide claimed.


Call of Duty and Assassin's Creed are far bigger than things like Dead Island and Dead Space. 

Even if all those games were available for the Wii U on day 1, I think you know full well they all would've flopped. 

The audience for these games doesn't want a Wii U and Nintendo gave that audience no reason to want one (here's a new Mario game that looks just like the Wii game! And look another mini-game compilation. Our system is fairly similar to the PS3/360 you've already owned for 5-6 years. Please give us $350.). 

Third parties don't owe Nintendo anything, and that's not to be mean, but again it's just like the guy who keeps crying about being single. Get over yourself. Girls don't owe it to you to recoginize you're a special snowflake and date you. You need to go out there and win over a girl, not the other way around. 

Nintendo fans who complain about this operate under a false pretext where they think third parties owe Nintendo something. They don't. The Wii U had some very big third party IP available from day 1, and it all sold like crap. The third parties that opted to pass on the proposition of the Wii U were honestly smart to do so. 

In all honesty the whole "we're going to make a console 5-6 years behind the tech curve" is a very risky strategy to take. Unless you have a controller or gimmick that takes off like wildfire, you're sh*t out of luck, stuck upcreek without a paddle. Nintendo hit the jackpot once, but didn't know well enough to get out of the casino and cash out their chips, instead they chose to play another bet and lost.