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MTZehvor on 02 February 2015
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platformmaster918 said:
MTZehvor said:
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tiffac said:
That was one of the most wildest SuperBowl endings that I can remember. Including the punches. lol!

Its almost very poetic for an undrafted rookie to make the final winning play. Congrats Pats they are indeed the San Antonio Spurs of the NFL.

except the Spurs didn't cheat (in 2 different ways) to get to their 4.  Unfortunate lesson for the kids of today.  If you're not cheating you're not trying I guess.

Cry more please.

haha typical.  Can't even deny it just the old "cry more" or "you mad bro?" response.  I'll give the Spurs all the credit in the world they're a great team.  See that shows I don't mind giving the true great credit even when they're not my team.  I'm also not a Seahawks fan or a fan of any of the teams they've beaten in the Super Bowl so I'm not biased against them.  You just can't ignore this when it's been clearly proven in one case and 99% certain in the other.  See if you have an actual reply this time.

I guess it's less of "I can't deny it" and more of "I really couldn't care less." I could discuss how there's no evidence linking Spygate to any of the Super Bowls (particularly so after the taping practice rumors were proven false), or how Deflategate, as it were, has become a laughingstock of a controversy after it turned out that only one football was noticeably below the mandatory PSI requirement, and there's still no evidence linking any player to any actual deflating, but these are all arguments that have been had before and laid out in much clearer ways. So, yeah, at this point, I really don't care. Cry about cheating all you want. I'll be enjoying the Super Bowl championship.

they were taping until the 2007 season so it's linked to the first 3.  11 of 12 balls were underinflated.  Belichecks explanation has been discredited by scientists (and yes more than just Bill Nye).  How about the QB who plays for a living can't tell the difference yet Drew Brees could tell the exact weight of each football he handled on Conan without being told beforehand?  They could win 10 superbowls it doesn't mean anything.  No objective person can ever put them in the same breath as Montana or Bradshaw or Noll now because they couldn't win clean.  Sorry but it's a forever tainted legacy.

"Until 2007?" Let's keep in mind here that the act of video taping from the location that they were video taping from didn't even become illegal until 2006 anyway; meaning that at best, you could convict the Patriots of cheating during the 2006 season and 1 quarter of the first game of the 2007 season. The only reason this is considered such a big deal is because the Boston Herald published an article claiming that the Patriots had taped the Rams' defensive walkthroughs before the 2001 Super Bowl, which turned out to be false and was retracted by the Herald later on. So as far as Spygate goes, you have evidence of video taping from a certain location which wasn't even illegal until after the Patriots won the last of their 3 Super Bowls. Congratulations; at best, you've shown that the Patriots' 2006 AFC Championship run might be suspicious and literally nothing else.

As for the footballs being deflated, two things. First off, 10 out of the 11 deflated footballs weren't even significantly below the 12.5 lower limit; meaning that while Belichick's explanation may not hold true if the balls were 2 PSI below the legal limit, it may very well hold true for the lower amount that they were (whatever that was, we still have no details). Beyond all that, though, the referees didn't even log the football PSI before the game; meaning that there's no official record that the footballs were even in the legal range to begin with.

Basically, anyone attempting to pin anything on New England for Deflategate has nothing but speculation to go on at best at this point. If you're going to whine about cheating; at least wait until the official findings are published.