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Scizor_99 said:


Sometimes naturalistic ethics are adhered to independently of religion though. For example, Someone could believe that living things should not be manipulated on the premise that we should "accept people for who they are". It doesn't need to have anything to do with religion. And people can still believe in souls/ spirits witout really ascribing to any doctrine.

Makes sense, but.....does a clone have a spirit? I agree that the naturalistic approach can be ascribed to the way one should live life outside of religion. The question still remains and we are still finding out a lot about ourselves as human beings today. The reason why I use religion is because religion affects a portion of society which is large enough not to be ignored. Once it gets into the fabric society eventually it can go from subculture to actual culture if not kept in check. I also understand that people can believe in spirits without doctrine. Thats no different than an athiest being able to have morality opposed to a large population which wonder how an athiest ever could because they lack religion. Its a cycle, you see.