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Seece said:

So MS just released figures and they shipped 6.6m Xbox consoles during the holiday Q.

My estimates (though they are irrelavant to overal Xbox console sales if you notice the title) are that 4.5m are XB1 and 2.1m are 360. This puts 360 at around 86.9m and XB1 around 11.9m.

However you spin the ratios, it's a fact that combined they're at 98.8 million shipped.

We have 95.5m sold, that leaves 3.3m on shelves which is a lot for dying 360 and XB1.

FYI, I don't think XB1 is undertracked, just 360, heavily. (like 1.5m~)

Freudian slip? LoL. if you want to make sure there is no accidental or deliberate misinterpretation you should write "...for XB1 and a dying 360."

Anyway, 3.3M on shelves across both systems is not as big a discrepancy as it looks. I wouldn't be surprised if Xb one had 1.5 million on shelves at present. That's about the maximum extent of what I think might be in the retail channels so for a what's possible analysis I think you can say 1.5M of that 3.3M is Xb one.

So that leaves 1.8M for 360, I agree that's too much, but not so much as to be an outrageous discrepancy. Even for a dying system 1 million in the retail channel is within the bounds of possibility, considering all the markets and retail outlets they need to have covered. 360 is still being actively marketed, indeed here it's probably being marketed more strongly than XB one. All the boxing day sale ads were PS4 and Xbox 360 for instance, no Xb one boxing day promotions. In terms of what's possible I think 800K-1 million on shelves is theoretically possible. MS could, for instance, have decided to ship out half a year's worth of projected 360 sales. And if MS is looking to kill off 360 manufacturing this year they might want to get end of life inventory out into the retail channels sooner rather than later.  

360 could be, IMO, up to 1 million undertracked, which is only 1.16% error. but even at 1.5M it's still only a 1.74% error. If it wasn't for the fact that this error rate is the difference between being ahead of PS3 and being behind PS3 would this thread actually exist? Or would we say, actually VGC's LTD tracking of 360 isn't too bad. IMO, objectively speaking if the LTD for a console on VGC is within 2% of actual sales (which no one knows with 100% accuracy) that is good enough for all practical purposes.



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