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Jumpin said:
McDonaldsGuy said:

A lot of people hate the Xbox and wish Microsoft never entered the gaming market, but look at what they've done for gaming:

- Achievements. First one to do achievements, brilliant innovation. Achievements give games lasting value to many people and also sold many games (I won't lie I have bought games just for the achievement points)

- Hard drive standard (except for a small percentage of 360 Core machines)

- Xbox Live. Seriously, the gold standard for online gaming. So many innovations - friends list, party chat, Xbox Live Arcade/Store, great matchamking, etc. etc. Compare it to the PS2's online! Now online gaming is probably the biggest part of gaming now, and Microsoft is the one that really pushed for it by including ONLY broadband for the Xbox instead of dialup (Sega's huge mistake)

- Halo. Halo was groundbreaking and super popular. Pretty much paved the way for the FPS generation. Even if you don't like it or its influence, you can't deny the facts. Some say Goldeneye was the game that did this but I think it was Halo 2 when the FPS era really took off. Not to mention Halo is the first $350 game ever (what I mean is most people bought an Xbox just to play Halo, the Halo box)

- Gears of War. A true killer app. The 360 needed one badly in 2006 and Gears of War also paved the way for many shooters last gen.

- It also helped promote WRPGs on consoles, which are now also a huge genre and bigger than JRPGs now

- Then there are other little innovations (albeit inevitable ones) like the guide button, dashboard, Kinect, etc. etc.


Achievements aren't an innovation, they're a gimmick, and games like Dragon Quest 5 did it years before Microsoft even considered coming to the market.

Harddrives have been around since the 80s.

Xbox Live is just an online service like any other, again. That stuffs been around since the 90s.

Goldeneye was around years before Halo, and there was also Turok, Half Life, Perfect Dark, Medal of Honor, etc... This was not a Microsoft innovation, it was something they cashed in on.

Gears of War wasn't made by Microsoft.

Promoting WRPGs is not an innovation.

Wii did motion controls first.


Sony introduced trophies due to the popularity of achivements on xbox 360. So clearly sony thought that was a good innovations to have as well.  

 

Wii was first with motion controls which is correct but kinect is far more advanced then the wii control . it can do so much more.  So for what kinect can do , is in a way innovation from MS. 

 

They are talking about HDD in consoles and from memory it was first used as a standard thing for the original xbox.  So yes its innovation for console gaming

 

Xbox live became a standard for online gaming for consoles. As a result, of its success, sony is following the same path with the ps4 right? Xbox live for console gaming was an innovation from MS.