Should Nintendo's next console be a microconsole?

[zorg1000]

Jizz_Beard_thePirate said:

zorg1000 said:

Jizz_Beard_thePirate said:

Well... It came out around the end of 2001 in NA and the price cut was in 2003sh and the wii came out around the end of 2006 so it had ~3 years to make a difference yet it really didnt... I really don't think going another gimmicky route with a Microconsole is the way to go even if it is cheaper

Edit: (If you are responding to this than I will just put it in my next reply)

You also said that it will have close enough hardware to their next gen handheld? If thats the case, they its definatly a vita/vita tv which further proves that your concept will not work. Nintendo handhelds are fairly cheap and if the Micro-console costs only $50 less than the handheld version, no one will sacrafice the portibility of the handheld as well as the touchscreen compatibility for the "TV" experience. Same software + same hardware = butchering sales of one of the platform which seems to be the console one more often than not

What does that have to do with anything? Like I said, the competition was close in price, when GC was $149, PS2/XB were $199, when GC was $99, PS2/XB were $149. The extra 3rd party support and multimedia features made it worth the extra $50. In this scenario it's a $99-149 device against $300-400 devices, a much different situation.

Vita TV is a TV version of an already failed device, thus making it a failure from the start, just because it failed doesn't mean other companies will fail with the same concept. A TV version of a successful device has a much, much higher chance of success. How many people do u hear asking for a mainline Pokemon title on consoles? This device would finally give them that and I don't believe portability is the main selling point of Nintendo handhelds outside of Japan, it's more like price/software considering that the majority of people who play them, play at home. Also just because one sells less than the other doesn't necessarily make one a failure. Let's say in this scenario the handheld sells 50-65 million and the home version sells 30-35 million, would that be a failure?

The reason why people want a mainline Pokemon title on a console is so that the Pokemon game will be able to use the power of the home console which is much more powerful than the handheld and not be limited to the power limitations of the handheld. It is not because they want to play the same game on a TV. And yes, this will technically give them that but its not what the people want. They don't want a port of the game they can easily play on the handheld, they want an original Pokemon game that can utlize the full power of the console which is not avaliable on the handheld. And you are drastically over estimating the sales of a micro-console.

Heres an idea, instead of speculating that it will work magically, why don't you give me some examples in cases where such a thing actually worked? I gave you the Vita/Vita TV, so now its your turn

And btw, the Vita sold 2.12 million in NA where has the Vita TV sold < 100k since its launch I believe. That is a bigggg difference. But yes, please, give me some proof because guess what, many 3ds owners also own a wiiU because they want the experience that the console exclusive version gives them and certainly not cause they just want to play the exact same game on their TV

This device I'm describing is more powerful than Wii U, a Pokemon game that uses that power be a very impressive title. How am I over estimating the sales potential?

There are no examples of such a thing that worked, that's why I think Nintendo could perhaps succeed in such a scenario. I have said it at least a half dozen times in this thread already, the microconsole market is a potentially large market, it just hasn't had a device with strong standout software to really put it on the map, Nintendo has the multimillion selling ip to make such a device standout and sell well if executed properly.

Vita is nearly 3 years old, Vita TV is 2.5 months old. Vita sold 400k in about 2.5 months and Vita TV 100k in the same time frame, a much better comparison than urs.

Also why are u assuming people will automatically choose the handheld? 3DS sells so much better than Wii U because of price and vastly larger software library, not simply because it's a handheld (well in Japan being a handheld sells it). If Wii U was the same price as 3DS with the huge library of 3DS, don't u think they would sell more similarly than they currently do?