Scientology on the news again, Anonymous owned them again

[Final-Fan]

Well, Sqrl, he seems to be accepting 90% of your post as unchallenged fact. If that's a "dodge", it's a damn bold one. I'd like to see where this goes.

"Not one person in this entire thread, least of all me, is arguing the toss over what CoS has done. What I have argued about is whether it is fair to apply the misdeeds of a few to the whole organization and all it's followers. Of course I haven't discussed what CoS has done as my primary issue because it was my understanding that their past misdeeds were not in dispute?"

So you're saying that you don't dispute what the CoS has done, only that it's the organization at large (i.e. CoS) that is to blame? No one here seriously thinks that ALL Scientologists participate in the very worst of the CoS's stunts, even if they all have the same ideology that supports those actions and support the Church that perpetrates them.

1. Yes, because there aren't any suspicious deaths ALREADY of the CoS's detractors.

2. You seem to be confusing "official policy" with "PUBLIC policy". Maybe we're using the term differently. I am using it to say that the CoS has formally authorized its followers to use such tactics. (And, by the way, that's NOT "formerly" misspelled.)

On a side note, I believe that your apparent use of "official" is actually a misuse, if I understand your meaning correctly. "Sony has officially confirmed its Q4 profits [to reporters/the public]" is the type of usage that might have led you to such a misconception. In this case, they are officially making public the numbers. The "public" part is not part of the term "official", though most official numbers in the news are public as well, as it's such a bother to get leaked reliable numbers in a timely manner. As you can see, Phendrana's evidence is not from this year or even the last.

Moving on: You paint yourself as never having questioned the reality of the CoS's actions, when in reality you have done so throughout. The posts between yourself and Phendrana show that you engaged specifically in questioning his assertions about the facts of what the CoS has done.

P.S.  "What the argument in this thread has moved into is a debate about due process and natural justice, which I believe should be accorded to everyone in and out of the courtroom."

According to you, it's been your sole purpose in this entire thread to force it on to that track. You have been the ONLY one moving it in that direction. It puzzles me why you would do so; if you feel so strongly, why not make your own related thread instead of spending so much effort trying to hijack this one?