China has just banned the burqa in its biggest Muslim city

[DanneSandin]

padib said:

DanneSandin said:

Yes, I agree that these religions have SOME good qualities, but I would argue that those are also found around the world regardless of religion, and even WITHOUT religion. The Abrahamic God is a cruel one with little sense of Morale, in my eyes at least. One great example of this is the story or Sodomon and Gomora; Lot (the ONLY good recident in this city) gets a visit from two Angels, and a mob then gathers around his house wanting to rape these two fellas. Instead Lot offers his virgin daughter (or if it were two of them?) for the mob to rape. That's real classy. That's the morale of the Bible. And do you know what the punishment of leaving the Islamic faith is? Death. How neat. Great morale ;)

I'm sorry if I sound a bit harsh and angry, that's absolutely not the case =) I just find these things interesting.

It's okay, you sound fine. I think that for every sick verse you will find a noble one.

As for Lot's action, I'm not willing to excuse it, and I'm not sure the bible excuses all actions that are described in it either. Lot may have been a righteous man, but so was David, and he took Uriah's wife in adultery with him, and had Uriah killed in the battlefield.

So being righteous doesn't excuse all your actions. Perhaps Lot's intention was noble but his actions were less. He may have intended to forbid a holy angel of God to be defiled, but perhaps his approach was wrong. It is difficult to judge since we don't know if there is a different offense between raping an angel and raping a human. It's a sick question, but let's remember the people in that land were sexually perverted.

Oh goodie ^^

Well, just because there is a good verse for every evil verse doesn't make the Bible a moraly right and good book. I mean, Hitler did some good things for Germany before he started WWII. Does that mean we could/should just forget all the (very) bad things he did? The same thing can probably be said about Stalin.

Going by Lot's actions, he was far from a good man, far from a good morale example. We could even take a look at God himself and deduce that it's a jealous and moraly corrupt God. What did he do to the first borns of Egypt when ONE Egytian refused to let the Jews go? He murdered a whole generation of innocent children. If that isn't sick, I don't know what is. With ll his might there would have been thousands of other ways to convince the Pharao to let the Jews go.