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chocoloco said:
mornelithe said:

Your point is irrelevant, and I could give a shit, especially given the photos of Brady and Gronk you've posted in here.  So, the words tough shit, come to mind :D

Fair enough. I thought of Gronk's ass as a compliment actually. Ravens face to the ass. 

Maybe, but you can't deny that you haven't taken your shots on the Patriots.  I'm not at war with Manning, or anyone here.  I poke some fun here and there, but I don't think it's stepping over any lines.  And I think most of my comments in here have been serious football related (and yes, mostly about the Patriots).

But, seriously, if the tear/partial tear/strain etc... is indeed the reason for his dropoff (I was thinking maybe he needed that obligatory year that allot of players who miss a year need, to get the dexterity in his arm back up to full season+postseason form...then again, he did go late into the post-season last year...so I guess that's a dumb assumption on my part), then it shouldn't mean he's done.  And as I said to LudicrousSpeed, I generally prefer to see any athlete go out on their own terms, rather than be forced into retirement due to injury or whatever.  And for players like Manning, Brady, Rodgers, etc... you know, the extremely rare specimens (Like MJ, or Bird, or Orr, or Phelps etc...), I think everyone wants to see them play/compete as long as they have that desire.  They're just capable of remarkable things.