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fireburn95 said:
jetforcejiminy said:


And the wii u versions arent going to touch those numbers.

The problem is not mario, the problem is nintendos lack of innovation.

Old IPS are cool, and nintendo makes the most fun games, but they arent selling points for the console anymore for the non-nintendo-fan market.

PS4 has sold double of what wii u sold in half the time, because it has three things
1) New IP's
2) Classic IP's
3) Healthy amount of 3rd party games

And as long as nintendo fans cant accept that, #2 is all you'll get.

last point: ps4 has sold based on thin air. and remakes, lots of remakes (which require about 1/1000 the energy of making a new entry in a recognizable series with recognizable characters). it's headed the way of the wii, which it didn't even outperform first year (fell short by 2m+). it will not sell stratospheric numbers of consoles, it will sell ~80m. so ps3 figures. in fact, unlike the ps3, it won't have that momentum at the end. all the sales momentum is front-loaded. vgchartz just revised sales downward, btw.

last word from me, sorry. and sorry to op we've derailed your post. i stand by my predictions above about some of the 2016 titles, especially metroid, animal crossing and new platinum game.


Well the biggest bumps in the year for ps4 sales didnt come from TLOU, it came from Watchdogs and Destiny. (If not counting the holiday season)

So no logic to that. Ofcourse remakes sold a lot of units, but almost every significant game in the launch sold units, even shadow of mordor, once again a new ip

watch dogs and destiny were the thin air.