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NavyNut said:
TheBlackNaruto said:

So Mario is not more of the same...the goal in the mario games is usually always the same....a  lot of the same enemies and bosses etc. They just change the the skin and add new features. Why is Mario innovative but nothing else? Why does Mario get a pass? A game DOES NOT have to always be innovative to be good I guess is the point I am making. Heck Bayonetta 2 WAS NOT innovative but it scored very well....I guess your logic just confuses me because it only seems to eb directed at non Nintendo games which just seems weird I guess.


Mario changes the way you play the game with innovative levels that changes the whole game. Uncharted, not so much, more of the same climbing and cinematics etc. Just look at Mario Galaxy, then 3D World, they are very different games.

Different games with the same core concept just a different way of going about it. Heck I could use your argument and say in Mario Galaxy and 3D world more of the same jumping on turtles, getting mushrooms, saving a princess , shooting firebllas etc. Still doesn't change the fact that both are good fun games. Not innovative or bringing something new or never done just doing what they do at the core better than any other game out there which IMO is a great thing. But anyway this is WAY off topic and I do not want to derail the thread any further....but a good conversation none the less just a difference in our views!



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