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vivster said:
dane007 said:


in nz the price between the cpu and gpu is very small lol.  Especially with thoswe choices. I was trying to future proof the pc hence why i chose the cpu as thats the best cpu for the prive you pay. the next ones up alone cost 1.3k and above.   I know the gpu would be somethign i have to replace down the track. i was thinking of less parts upgrade in teh futre hence the choice lol. if you want to put double graphics card down the track wouldn't putting 1000 watts be a good idea?  The reason why i chose 970 over 9060 is because the price you pay for 980 and gains you get from it , in comparison to 970 is small ? Correct me if i am wrong. Remember seeing teh fps davantage as small.

The difference between 970 and 980 is between 10-20% depending on the game. The difference between the 5930k and 4790k is between -5% and 5%. Yes you heard right, the 4790k will be faster than the grossly overpriced 5930k in a lot of games due to higher base clock. In the end it doesn't even matter because your CPU will never be the bottleneck. You could even go with a 4770k and will never see a difference.

While the 970 is good, it will have already trouble with current games on ultra. So if you have the money definitely go for 980.

SLI is never a good idea except if you're going the full high end route from the start. I know a lot of people who were "planning" on just getting a second GPU later. I don't know a single person who actually went through with it. I will tell you why.

Let's say your GPU will be too slow for you in 2-3 years. You then have 2 choices, either buy a second card of the same type or buy a newer better card. Buying the old card will save you a few bucks but will have the huge disadavantage of being SLI:

- 2 cards don't scale efficiently which means you will not have double the power. In a best case scenario maybe 90%

- you will have what's known as micro jitter. That means in certain scenarios depending on the framerate and game the game will not run smoothly despite having a high enough average framerate

- You are absolutely dependent on SLI profiles. If a game you want to play has none, you are stuck with your old and weak GPU while the second one does nothing

- You will have unnecessarily high power consumption. First because years of an oversized PSU and then because you have 2 old and inefficient cards running

- you will miss out on all the new features that the last generations of GPUs brought with them

Now if you would just buy a newer card that is maybe 70-80% faster than your old one you will have none of these disadvantages except maybe paying a few extra bucks more.

What you should take away from this:

- Don't overprovision your CPU. By the time it becomes a bottleneck it's time for a new CPU and mainboard anyway

- Pick the highest GPU option your budget allows. Divert as many resources as possible from other components like CPU, mainboard and RAM and put it where it counts. Your GPU is your number one bottleneck and it will stay that way for a long time

- Don't buy a PSU for components you don't have. 1000W is too much for everything that's not 3 way SLI. 500W is sufficient for every single GPU setup with Intel.


Interesting. I would love to get 980 but the price in nz means more by 300 bucks. HOwever with your advice would consider gewtting one. Would having that cpu and 980 be a better setup?  For graphics card which one is better in terms of branD. ie asus , gigabyte or EVGA?  Lol my pc graphics card at the moment is teh 1gb variant of GTX 460 XD . Thats ancient. lol. I checked df and both cards do well in 1080p but yeah i have to consider the newer games down the track like witcher 3 .  With 980 would a 500 PSU be sufficeint or do i have to get slightly higher? 

 

Thanks ofr this advise :) as i am a noob at pc building lol