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Nem said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
Nem said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:


Demon Souls is an RPG, but rather classified as an action RPG. Its still based on points, but it doesn't rely on being turnbased.


Has nothing to do with the battle system. Xenoblade isnt turn based either. It has to do with the lack of a proper supporting cast and narritive.

Supportng cast and narritive through conversational pieces was an element made famous by Bioware in story driven RPG's. Demon Souls and Dark Souls has a story no matter how shallow it is. That game is purely about Action/RPG gameplay mechanics. There was once a time when Western RPG players used to question whether JRPG's were true JRPG's since you couldn't affect the outcome of the story through their actions, but we've all come to the conclusion that its two culture different perspectives on the RPG even though they all came from a common source.


You're going on a tangent. This is quite simple: No narritive and supporting cast, not an RPG for me. Cant have a role without a play. So, no the director of Dark souls does not make the best RPG's in my opinion because they can hardly be qualified as such.


I basically laid it out for you in the exact way you just said it. Its not an RPG in your opinion. I was telling you what people thought of JRPG's in their opinion and then you told me I was diverting and gave me your opinion of it (which was what I was leading into...no one wins). The conclusion is there are many different types of RPG's. There are WRPG's, JRPG's and the most common type of RPG springing out of the west is Action RPG's. Even Final Fantasy is using the Action RPG formula with some typical final fantasy flavor.  All Demon Souls is missing is a proper story and conversation tree. Thats just the thing though...the game doesn't need to because its succeeded without it. Its purely about the decision making process on what you do with your character.

By definition the type of RPG that Demon Souls and Dark Souls are...are known as Dungeon Crawlers. Its a western style RPG created by a Japanese company, thats all. Pure Japanese difficulty, with the western philosophy and trope in a dungeon crawl to level up and survive. Diablo does that too and no one denies its an action RPG.