Global Hardware Up 13 December 2014

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Ninsect said:

binary solo said:

Ninsect said:

Thing is, XB1 doesn't need to "BEAST" PS4 anywhere to reach 70m. If it can reach 40m in NA, which I see as a possibility as long as MS keep being competitive, it would only need 30m from the rest of the world. Almost 10m of that will most likely come from the UK, leaving 20m from the rest of Europe and rest of the world.

PS4 would still be dozens upon dozens of millions ahead of XB1 globally.

You're dreaming man. No way xb one hits 40M in USA. 360 is only on 44M and according to everyone other than vgc this is overtracking. Ps4 and Xb one are splitting the market which means roughly 30m each. And as for UK 360 is over 1M off reaching 10M which means 10M there is a pipe dream. The way the market is splitting there xb on will fall well short of 360. 

Which market are PS4XB1 splitting? They are way ahead of PS360 last generation. Obviously there is some spillover from Wii.

As for the UK, even if I'm slightly overestimating it there it will hardly matter much for the final total. Near 70m is still my guess.

The size of the xb/PS market is fairly static, Actuall it shrunk from gen 6 to 7 with all the casuals going to Wii, and then exiting consoles to go mobile/Facebook casual. Ps2 took the vast majority of the market the ps3/360 split it evenly, though with significant imbalances in individual markets. The gen ps4 will once again dominate, but not quite to the same extent. There will be no market growth for PS/xb this gen. The last gen where there was genuine growth of gamers was Ps2 gen. Gen 7 was a one time thing giving a false impression of a major expansion of the number of gamers in the world.

So xb one and PS4 will be fighting over about 160 million users. Best case for Xb one is 60 million to PS4's 100 million. 

People should not get confused between fast sales and sustained sales. Ps4 won't burn quite as hot and short as Wii, but it will be more like a Wii pattern than the more gradual and longer lived PS360 sales patterns. And xb one is following a similar track. it will burn out very fast in all but the English speaking markets, if MS doesn't do something different.