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DerNebel said:
RubberWhistleHistle said:
DerNebel said:

I don't have a problem with it, if you want to make your list not include remakes/remasters then do that and enjoy your list for yourself but don't think that  that should be accepted by everyone. At the end of the day everyone is going to have their own things they search for in games or a system.

So just because you don't want to include e.g. TLOU:R, doesn't mean that playing that game in the highest fidelity isn't a reason for someone else to buy a system and is thus going to be included in his/her list. You cannot make a universally true list that shows who has the better games (and even trying that on the basis of metacritic is a whole nother story) no matter how you set it up.

you need to relax, man. lol seriously. of course its my opinion that remakes shouldnt be included.. a lot of people share that opinion. in fact, that opinion i would say is most likely the majority. you dont see major gaming websites including remakes in goty discussions, do you? i think there is a lot of credibility behind my opinion that remakes shouldnt be included in lists like this. 

if everything is just chalked up to opinion and we can never find common ground, then why do you spend so much time on this forum? if everybody is just going to make their own list that they enjoy by themselves and thats it, then whats the point of coming on here and communicating ideas to other people? stop taking things to that level because its not constructive.

I am calm. And even if remakes aren't included in GOTY lists, I've seen a lot of remakes be counted in best games on a system lists, especially for Nintendo handhelds.

Also I'm on this site to discuss sales mostly and to talk about PS games that interest me, most definitely not to make console war lists to show who has the better games.

fair enough. i would say i am on here because i like discussing sales (always have) and i enjoy the history of consoles, for example, the 360 impacted the industry by doing x, y, z and the most notable games that contributed to those things are x, y, z. thats kind of how i see this discussion. anyways, its nice to see you not giving me the silent treatment anymore. ill see you around some other time, im sure.