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RubberWhistleHistle said:
DerNebel said:

So you want to set up the criteria in a way that shows that which is impossible to show, great. Also I'm not getting angry and you not wanting to include these things does not disprove that tons of people do include and exclude certain games to make the list look more like they want it to look.

i think excluding remakes or ports is a very fair stipulation, i dont see what your problem is with that. it doesnt favor any one console over another. 

I don't have a problem with it, if you want to make your list not include remakes/remasters then do that and enjoy your list for yourself but don't think that  that should be accepted by everyone. At the end of the day everyone is going to have their own things they search for in games or a system.

So just because you don't want to include e.g. TLOU:R, doesn't mean that playing that game in the highest fidelity isn't a reason for someone else to buy a system and is thus going to be included in his/her list. You cannot make a universally true list that shows who has the better games (and even trying that on the basis of metacritic is a whole nother story) no matter how you set it up.