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The_Sony_Girl1 said:
McGilliguts said:
I actually think those are some good questions, whether or not one believes in god(s). The christian God is primarily concerned with obedience - eg the sacrifice of Isaac. He doesn't really give a shit about much else, no human achievement impresses him, not math science or art. Not even virtue matters according to most Christians. You might be virtuous, but if you don't accept Christ as your savior, then sorry but you're fucked. this attitude is even more pronounced in Islam, and the sacrifice of Ismail is a major Muslim holiday. Observe the great throngs of believers bowing and chanting in unison and the message is clear - submission and obedience above all. Yes, God wants slaves.


Virtue doesn't matter, because it's like cleaning clothes with dirty water. It will still be dirty. Tell me, would you forgive someone who raped your partner, killed her, and stole everything from her? Just because that someone was virtous? God might love, but Justice also needs to be done. 

But if he "turns his life over to Christ" and "truly asks for forgiveness from the Lord", and becomes a "virtuous" person (ex. gives to charity, helps the homeless, becomes an all around "good guy"), then he gets eternal bliss and happiness in heaven. You may not forgive this rapist/murderer/thief, but God will. Where's the "justice" in that? That's mercy, which is the suspension of justice.