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DerNebel on 26 December 2014
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Madword said:
DerNebel said:

It seems to me more that you're the one on the high horse here, dismissing people saying that giving devs/publishers money for a product before that product is out is pointless and saying that you know before doing something that you're going to like it or not, without listening to anyone else.

And your reasoning doesn't even make any sense, we're not in a time anymore where it is remotely necessary to pre order something to play it day 1, there is always enough stock and even if there isn't then you can still download a game. So go online on release day and check if there are possibly problems with a game or anything and then you can still buy and play the game day 1 without buying it on good faith before it's out.

What is wrong with giving anyone money before you know about it. I'm sorry, do you ever go to the cinema to watch a film without actually knowing what the whole film is, or perhaps you rent a game or movie without knowing much about it. People are being way more judgemental about gamers pre-ordering a product than they do about anything else. I guess you might have recieved some suprise presents for christmas that you knew nothing about, perhaps you should have asked to try them before getting them. I suspects there are cases in your life where you have ordered something without knowing much about it, did you go to a resturant and order a meal without ever trying it before... there are a ton of similar examples. People are just crap talking... picking out games and game companies as some special case, but ironically, they are just being silly.

You know some people have jobs and have to work, so ordering online is a perfectly reasonable assumption than having to drive home from work and then go out and buy it. You are making assumptions based on your situation, not on what others might want to do, this is my point. If people want to pre-order anything, then they are well within their rights, and just because you can pop down the shops on the day of release if you feel like it, why can those who cannot or dont want to, do the same.

Again, all that you're saying makes absolutely zero sense and definitely doesn't apply to me in the least.

First and foremost the cinema isn't $60  per ticket and actually no, I always have a general idea what a film is about and have heard some opinions about it before I actually go and pay for it. And nope I have not received surprise present (not that that isn't an absolutely horrible analogy anyway, since people are not rarely very disappointed with surprise presents) either. The restaurant is the same, I highly, highly doubt that you'd ever go to a restaurant and pay $60 for a meal that you've never tried before, if you haven't heard good things about it.

Also, you conveniently left out the digital part of my post, you can easily buy the game on day 1 with the PS app and have it to my knowledge even download while you're at work, so that's another reason for pre ordering gone.

And I find it hilarious that you're actually trying to make this into a fanboy thing, have you somehow not been paying attention in the last couple months? This has nothing to do with personal vendettas against certain games or companies, it's all about stopping companies from releasing broken games.