IamAwsome said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
LudicrousSpeed said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
If MS didnt buy third party products the Xbox as a brand would be nowhere. The other two are not primarily known for that even though in their prime they all had exclusive third party.
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And if Sony didn't use loads of money to buy their way into the industry (eating huge losses on hardware, cheaper licensing fees than anyone else, and 3rd party moneyhats) the Playstation brand wouldn't be anywhere either. Turns out you gotta spend money to make money.
S.T.A.G.E. said:
busbfran said:
Tomb Raider will no longer come to ps4 if this is the case |
I know what this really is. Its bullshit and we've seen it before. MS did the same thing with Mass Effect. They believed in the project and paid for an Xbox 360 version to be ported from the PC. Paying for the port of a console version of a game and trying to keep it exclusive before the launch is nothing new to them.
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You're right, we have seen it before. Hell, this isn't even the first time this very franchise has been bought to prevent other console versions. Sony did this same thing with this franchise during the PSone days. Just one of those moneyhat 3rd party scenarios I mentioned above ;)
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Sony didnt buy their way into the industry dude.... Nintendo was using Ken Kutaragi who was a contracted worker for Sony to develop a CD Rom drive for the next Nintendo console behind Sony's back. Sony caught Kutaragi in the act and his friend who was the head of Sony saved his ass. Sony claimed what was theirs since he was under contract with R&D to them and made a legitimate contract with Nintendo to do business with them. When the console was going to be shown off at CES Nintendo read the contract that Sony and their lawyers had made since the product was theirs and wanted a larger cut of the profits than Nintendo is willing to allow so they walked out on them. Kutaragi from there convinced Sony to join the industry to get back at Nintendo and they ended up dominating it.
They got devs hooked on the new format (most notably Squaresoft..whom they bought shares of) and did favors by producing the discs for the companies and thats one of the reasons the majority of them left Nintendo. The discs had more space than the cartridges so they could do more with their games even though the N64 had better graphics. Nintendo refused to play ball with format si nce they jumped back to the cartridge and continued to feign ignorance for twenty years since Sony took the third party from them. Nintendo's relations with third party was never that great to begin with. All third party needed to leave Nintendo was a reason and Sony gave it to them. They just ran them because they dominated the industry. As for Sega....that was a tragedy that was caused by their own hands Sega practically handed third party exclusivity over to Sony because they pissed off so many third party devs by screwing up their launch date that many withdrew from them. Look it up...the reason they screwed up their launch date was because Sony had arrived in the industry. Sega spent so many years struggling to gain third party support only to lose it because of a launch.
Still the only major Moneyhat Sony did to keep a game away from MS was the GTA Trilogy (Outside of funding SFV and helping with crossplay). Since then they've pretty much beaten Microsoft very well themselves. You must remember by the time the PS3 era had started, Microsoft had taken a lot of third party games from Sony and had paid to keep a good enough portion of third party games from Sony so the perception would be that Sony had no games and they had exclusives. The same thing is happening now...just not a year ahead. In other words....we know better. Lets be real here if Sony is majorly moneyhatting at all this gen its mostly not even of the AAA variety. It is indie.
By your definition of buying ones way into the industry it was Microsoft. They bought Halo from under Apples nose because they had no other software of value to enter the industry that could amass a crowd like that game. What they saw at the Apple show wowed them so they took it and wowed people with it. Also, the only reason MS is responding right now about Tomb Raider is because Sony manages to explain themselves without pissing everyone off. MS basically just said yet again (this gen) "yeah...what they said...we did that".
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GTA isn't the only game Sony bought in the past. They bought Tomb Raider, and EVERY other game that Square released on the PS1 and PS2. The first two Resident Evils were timed exclusives too IIRC. Sony definitely "bought" sales in the past just as much as Microsoft does now.
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See...that goes to show you how great the Playstations installed base was that it clouded your understandig of what really happen. From the start Tomb Raider was on the Playstation, Saturn and PC. Sony popularized it because it became a console hit and became synonymous with Playstation. Resident Evil and a lot of games came to Sony because of the space of the platform and Sony was willing to provide the discs necessary to make the developmental process easier for third party. Look it up. Formats were one of the major ways Sony wooed over third party. Sony moneyhatted GTA and still to this day no one is defended it, but MS has returned the favor ten fold since their first party isnt up to snuff. Microsofts idea of true first party is comissioning the iP of third party. Sony moneyhats, but they dont moneyhat like Microsoft. They even had a policy where they refused to pay for games (hence why they lost FFXV exclusivity). Also unlike MS they dont moan, complain and create hypocritical parity clauses that gives all of the power to the one who jots down the contract.
