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I admit, i had a less impression on the games when it was released, and at that time i gave more praise on Forza H 2 because it has an open track and open world but there are a lot of complain about how small the world is compare to having a close track like on Forza 5 (main line series).

After they fix the most important thing for the games "the online aspect" and added weather effect, i saw the video and heard the praise and they blown me even i haven't got my hand on the games. Now i think they are equal footing with slightly better on DriveClub .