SocialistSlayer said:
BMaker11 said:
DrDoomz said:
SocialistSlayer said:
legally, it is not defined as a choke hold defined by the NYPD as “any pressure to the throat or windpipe, which may prevent or hinder breathing or reduce intake of air.”.
the autopsy showed no damage to the wind pipe or neck bone, and the man did not die of asypyxiation.
he applied a submission hold, which is allowed.
and like i said homicide, in this context, it is not a legal term but a medical one, meaning death by the hand of another. dont confuse medical parlance with legal terms
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From what I'm reading, a blood restriction hold is still cosnidered a "choke hold" as it "chokes" the blood flow. Also, from what I'm reading, in order for a "lateral vascular neck restraint" shouldn't it require the crook of the elbow be positioned over the mid of the neck (to prevent it becoming an air choke)? In this case, if you look at the videos, the crook of his elbow was definitely positioned to the side of the neck and his wrist was placed firmly where the throat is.
http://i.imgur.com/2BrlwwI.png
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And, even with the semantics of "choke hold" vs "submission hold"...the technique the officer used is illegal/prohibited by the NYPD! The officer shouldn't have done it in the first place. There's no way around it. The officer killed that man. And he got away with it
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its not semantics, when one hold is perfectly allowed by the nypd, while the other has been banned since like 1993.
was it the officer or his bad health that killed him?
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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/12/03/eric-garner-family_n_6265792.html
"Garner, a Staten Island man who had asthma, died on July 17 after Officer Daniel Pantaleo placed him in a prohibited police chokehold during an arrest"
http://rt.com/usa/211203-garner-chokehold-grand-jury-decision/
The city’s medical examiner ruled Garner died as a result of the chokehold – a move which is banned by the NYPD – and declared his death a homicide
http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2014/12/03/3598919/breaking-grand-jury-wont-charge-cop-who-killed-eric-garner-with-illegal-chokehold/
A grand jury voted not to file any charges against David Pantaleo, the New York Police Department cop who took the life of Eric Garner after putting him in a chokehold — a maneuver banned by the police department.
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/12/04/nyregion/grand-jury-said-to-bring-no-charges-in-staten-island-chokehold-death-of-eric-garner.html?_r=0
An autopsy by the city’s medical examiner found that Mr. Garner’s death was a homicide resulting from the chokehold — a maneuver banned by the Police Department in 1993 — and the compression of his chest by police officers.
http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/nypd-eric-garner-chokehold-death-not-indicted-article-1.2031841
Garner, a 43-year-old father of six, was killed when Pantaleo subdued him with a banned chokehold.
Shall I keep going?
