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Dulfite on 26 November 2014
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enditall727 said:
Dulfite said:


I do not, as a Christian, hold to the belief that there is any specific action (other than accepting Christ as my savior) I can take or wisdom I can gain that would increase the chance of "meeting my creator." Everyone will be judged before the throne of God one day, but those who have accepted God's love through Jesus Christ will be saved. That is my belief. I do not believe in some intellectual ascension. I'm going to meet God one day 100% no matter how "open" my mind is and, thankfully, because of my love for Jesus that will be an incomprehensibly wonderful meeting.

Also, I was not suggesting I would be alive when Christ returns, rather I'm just really looking forward to HIS return.


Well if that was the case then you would be able to get married and cheat on your wife, steal, commit crimes and do other unholy things without judgement as long as you just believe and accept that chriat is your savior.

 

You can't say that you dont believe in an intellectual ascension because that's exactly what going to "heaven" would be. One similar thing that is said when leaving the body and bwing fully in your aoul form is that you immediately hqve a better understanding of things(aka and intellectual ascension)

 

I personally dont like the thought of just waiting for somebody to come save us like were some helpless beings incapable of anything. Like we were just put here to be helpless until somebody came back to save us. We have all this intelligence for nothing? Pretty much a worthless existance when that is not the case.

 

Either way, I hope things work out for you regardless of what you believe


1) That is another greatly misunderstood concept about Christianity from outside of Christianity. Believers know, and unbelievers obviously have a difficult time comprehending this (understandbly due to not having Jesus in their hearts) that someone who seriously has accepted Christ as their savior have a change of heart that reflects Christ. There are plenty of people (maybe even most) that claim to be Christians, but have no relationship with Jesus (and therefore aren't saved) and do things that are very un-Christlike. Cheating on your spouse, stealing, committing crimes without any remorse is a good indication of someone who isn't truly a believer in Jesus Christ and is living a lie. If you love Jesus, you love to act like Jesus.

2) I was saying that I don't believe me meeting my creator is conditional upon my increase in comprehension and wisdom. Obviously, knowing Jesus Christ and reading God's word, and ultimately being with God one day in heaven will and has been making me a wiser person, but my salvation is not in anyway dependent on intelligence. Songs of Solomon is a clear indication that all the intelligence in the world does not really mean much in comparison to having a relationship with God.

3) I was never saying (nor do I believe) that we should sit around and do nothing while we wait for Jesus. The Bible gives us clear indication of what we (and by we, I mean Christians because obviously the Bible doesn't give instructions for what non-believers should be doing) should be doing with our lives; loving God by loving others. Feeding the hungry, clothing the poor, and showing love to anyone and everyone regardless of their beliefs or background. We were all lost sheep and so we should have compassion for those that still are lost sheep, just as Christ had (and has) compassion on us. The Bible is not a calling for inaction and laziness, but one of passion and love applied through constant action.