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Soundwave on 25 November 2014
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torok said:
Soundwave said:
 

Yeah the truth is the competetion between Sony and MS alone for that audience is so heated, that they took whatever scraps Nintendo had with that audience-base a long time ago. The last time Nintendo really had an exclusive that resonated hugely with that type of audience was GoldenEye, I remember even my Playstation-loving friends who didn't give a crap about Mario would reluctantly admit GoldenEye was "pretty awesome" and some of them even bought an N64 just for GoldenEye. 

Nintendo can't win with this crowd. Seriously try going to a store and convincing people who are buying a PS4 or X1 to buy a Wii U instead. You will get laughed out of the store. 

They want what they want, and what they want sure as heck isn't what Nintendo is bringing to the table these days. 

Even kids I find especially younger boys look at a Wii U like you're asking them to eat broccoli. They don't want that. They don't want the "mom approved console", they want the XBox or Playstation like their older brother is playing, they want "Calladooty" more than even that comic book collecting 30-year-old who lives in mom's basement. 

N64 was awesome for mature games. Goldeneye, Perfect Dark, Killer Instinct, Conquer's and so on. They lost these kind of games. Adults and teens want PS or XB and kids will just want what their "cooler" older brothers and older friends want, like you said.

We just have to look to Wii U ads. It's always a cute and overly colorful kiddy game played by a bunch of kids and their families. Then you see a CoD, Halo or Uncharted ad and you see action, characters that could be the main stars of blockbuster movies and it passes an idea of being awesome. That sells and Nintendo lost it years ago.


Microsoft basically "stole" Nintendo's standing as being the FPS console of choice (N64 actually had a lot of Western exclusives too) with the XBox and Halo.

The N64 while still not being as popular as the Playstation did still have some catchet with the college dorm/"mature" gamer crowd thanks to things like GoldenEye and Turok and the Star Wars games. 

Kind of a shame that Nintendo basically just gave it up without even putting up much of a fight for that crowd (I'm sorry but ... Geist? Really? You went from GoldenEye to Perfect Dark to Geist? Really Iwata?). 

Nintendo's marketing today is basically an admission that they can't compete with Sony/MS so they have to market to kids/families even though that audience base is also under assault.