"Another Mario/Zelda Game" Rehash, Rehash, Rehash? Well Lets See About That...

[Jizz_Beard_thePirate]

the_dengle said:

Jizz_Beard_thePirate said:

Yes, thats true, so... If MGS V PP costs $60, comparativly, MGS V GZ should cost way less cause PP takes way longer to make

Oh come on... 100% of every game is optional? Really? We both know that, that is pure nonsense. Why on earth would anyone buy the game if they weren't going to play it... By that logic, Food, and life and everything is optional in a sense... The point again, I am try to make is... Virtually every game has what MGS V GZ has with its hidden things and blah blah blah but you don't see other games that are very enjoyable charging $30 for them because that is terrible value for money comparatively. The only reason MGS V can get away with it is cause of its dedicated and potentially exploitable fans. If EA did this or Ubisoft did this, even if the content was good or better than MGS V GZ, everyone would be up their asses like crazy and rightfully so...

I did enjoy MGS V GZ but I really don't care about the optional content... MGS V GZ isn't the only game I have to play and it shouldn't need nor does it deserve any special treatment that my other games, which I enjoy very much, get. Even on my most favorite games like Mario Galaxy and other things, I don't care for all the extras but that doesn't mean Mario Galaxy can't stand on its legs without them. People shouldn't need to do optional things to feel that their money is well spent where as there are plently of other games that are veryyyy enjoyable and they include plenty of optional content on top of the main section as well

Oh and Main Story on Far Cry 4 is about 13.5 hours... http://www.howlongtobeat.com/game.php?id=19310

Bolded is exactly my point. Why would someone buy GZ and stop playing it after 2 hours? What about the other 15 hours is "optional" compared to the first 2? If you really liked the game, why didn't you continue playing it? You just stopped after clearing what you consider the main story? Might as well have just watched it on Youtube if that's all you cared about.

It's not nonsense to say all of a game is optional. Especially when you bring up Mario games. What makes completing the main story "mandatory?" The little checkmark you can put next to the game in your mind signifying that you beat the final boss or saw the credits? I mean, take the first SMB. There's no post-game, and almost all of the content is "optional" because of warp pipes. You really only have to play a handful of levels to beat that game. Does all of that optional content not contribute to the value of the game, just because you can skip it and still see the end credits?

It gets even crazier in the 3D games. You bring up Galaxy, for example. But the structure in Galaxy is non-linear: you can skip level A entirely, or you can get all of the stars in that level and skip level B entirely. Both levels are optional, because you can skip either and simply play the other.

The main story in Far Cry 4 can in fact be completed in about 15 minutes. Won't link it, I'm sure you know what I'm talking about.

Well thats because the reason the person bought the game was cause of the Story, specially in MGS (considering GZ won't be avaliable in the main game)... And the reason as to why the person wouldn't play it is cause the person is not interested in the rest of the things and he/she has other games to play. And Youtube does not give you the same experience... Not only is the audio and video compressed but every game is better if you experience it yourself from Start to "Finish".

As for Mario games, the reason why they are so good is that if you don't care about the optional stuff, you can still get great value out of them and this is speically true of the 3d Mario games. Mario games in general make sure that everyone thats playing has an very enjoyable experience for a great length of time while rewarding the people that put the time and effort into doing optional and extra things like it should be. Sure, Optional content has value but they should be added value instead of be the thing that people do in order to justify their purchase.

And yea, I just remembered that loll but still, thats not really the "main story," thats just a little bonus thing for the people that are trollish enough to wait and see what happens.