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I think 18m plus but less than 19M. But what I do know is that SOny consistently sell more PS4's than 99% of us believe will happen so the fact loads of us are predicting 18-19M gives me the feeling it could even hit 20M. If not 20M shipped before the new year. If SOny were smart they would announce almost 20M shipped at their playstation event and after MS's antics with the almost 10M shipped lark I can def see them doing it. Fight fire with fire.