Xbox One sells 1 Million in the UK, outsells PS4 3 Weeks in a row

[starcraft]

DonFerrari said:

starcraft said:

I could be wrong, but I am quite sure that ioi has never accused any of the three manufacturers of lying in official reports?

And in the two cases discussed recently - this thread and the one about console sales in Germany - there is at best ambiguous information about whether we're dealing with shipped or sold numbers.

And again, I do not think that ioi, or anyone else, has claimed in recent history that the week-on-week numbers are 'right.' Simply within a margin of error (which, I will grant you, has gotten larger since the latest consoles launched).

But even if all of what I just said was untrue, it wouldn't be a reason to be rude or disrespectful about it.

Agree... no need to be disrespectfull torwards him, but what I saw were most jokes, but ok he isn't in the thread so the forum rule wouldn't allow it.

About him saying it. In the 10M announcement that Sony said dozen times it was sold through he said "if sony is to be trusted". In the Germany article the world used translated as "sold to customer" as explained by people that know german. And in this new the article says sold through and in the twitter post it was reafirmed so I have no problem accepting that PS4 sold 1M to customer in Germany and X1 in UK.

I am glad we agree. I do not think people should refrain from saying there are discrepencies in the numbers if thats what they feel. But there are right and wrong ways to go about that (additionally, its starting to become all some users talk about - which is frankly just boring).

I have not seen the tweet, which would be nice for clearing things up? But certainly I saw a number of Western news sources, and they did not appear to pick up on any translation of sold through, and some that were based on a GAF poster with a flawed history.

Which does not mean the number was shipped or sold, it just means there is plenty of ambiguity, making attacks on ioi all the less valid.