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starcraft said:
DonFerrari said:
starcraft said:
Can people please cut down on the constant attacking of the site owner?

At best, we're presented with incomplete and confusing information - no one in this thread can claim to have a perfect understanding of the limited and ambiguous figures made available to us.

No one has claimed VGC is 100% accurate, or close to it. Vitriol targeted at the site, ioi or anyone else for that matter is unhelpful. Want to disagree with the sites numbers? Fine. But there are respectful ways to do that.

The thing is no one is complaining about weekly numbers being off, we know it is quite hard to have them right... but to claim they are right when there is plentifull of information against it. Claim a company is lying about a number, then say sold numbers are shipped isn't the way to props the site reputation.

I could be wrong, but I am quite sure that ioi has never accused any of the three manufacturers of lying in official reports?

And in the two cases discussed recently - this thread and the one about console sales in Germany - there is at best ambiguous information about whether we're dealing with shipped or sold numbers.

And again, I do not think that ioi, or anyone else, has claimed in recent history that the week-on-week numbers are 'right.' Simply within a margin of error (which, I will grant you, has gotten larger since the latest consoles launched).

But even if all of what I just said was untrue, it wouldn't be a reason to be rude or disrespectful about it.


Agree... no need to be disrespectfull torwards him, but what I saw were most jokes, but ok he isn't in the thread so the forum rule wouldn't allow it.

About him saying it. In the 10M announcement that Sony said dozen times it was sold through he said "if sony is to be trusted". In the Germany article the world used translated as "sold to customer" as explained by people that know german. And in this new the article says sold through and in the twitter post it was reafirmed so I have no problem accepting that PS4 sold 1M to customer in Germany and X1 in UK.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."