FINAL FANTASY XV World Map!!!

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sc94597 said:

artur-fernand said:

sc94597 said:

I think that is the sign of a declining series. This wasn't a trend in the SNES or PS eras. FF XII doesn't seem so bad once we had to experience XIII. I doubt XV will be worse than XIII, especially after seeing the gameplay, atmosphere, and story in these trailers. 

That wasn't the trend because there was no internet back then =P

The amount of people who claim the series died after FFVI is considerable, for example. And VIII is EXTREMELY divisible.

The series is not "declining", XII was lauded by many people FFXIII got some pretty good reviews (8's, 9's, some 10's...), but a few years later you could see those same reviewers jumping on the bandwagon of "XIII sucks balls" despite giving the game an 8.5 or something. Gametrailers was particularly funny, I believe they gave the game an 8.9, only to include it on a Top 10 Worst FFs years later =P. But the game has a strong following regardless, Lightning is pretty popular in Japan, for example. It just so happens that XIII is as divisible as VIII. Plus, people love XIV, so there's that.

The FFVII thing was fanboyism, I'm sure if VII were on the N64 there wouldn't be hate. Furthermore, VII was always highly acclaimed by gamers. The for-profit review industry is deceptive. They review games based on perceived popularity and how much money they can make off it, nothing else. User reviews are much more accurate for describing the preferences of gamers. As for the internet, I am pretty sure there was internet (in its archaic form) when X released, and people always liked X (as a consensus.) VIII still gets a lot of hate today. Your argument was that the hate is there when the game is new, and then it goes away. My argument is that this is a newer trend in the franchise. 

If there is a newer trend, I wouldn't necessarily call it a bad trend.  There's some troubling aspects here and there, but the FF series is still highly acclaimed and well loved.  I would say based on more objective observations the trend would be that FF, unlike most other successful franchises, has changed more and risked more than any of them.  Gamers seem to like quick gratification without trying new things in their most loved series, which I'd say is where most of the spontaneous hatred for FF games initially comes from. However, it's not like there aren't people out there willing to give new ideas a go either.  I guess it depends on every gamer's comfort zone and maturity.  When it comes to expectations it's extremely important to have an open mind for FF games above all others because they can quickly become your favorite games. 

Like some said before; they hated FF12, but now they love it as they probably matured and wanted a certain something they couldn't get anywhere else; a game that aimed for the fences and did things well in specific areas other games never try for.  Some people on Steam that know of the hate that FF13 gets tried it out with a more open mind, void of expectations, and loved it.

The hype train does probably more damage to FF games than anything else.  But even those people that were so disappointed with FF13, like myself, still play FF13 every now and then and are still willing to go on because if there's one series that can get you intrigued beyond all hope because of the shear care in certain areas of which you can't get anywhere, it's the FF series.