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Nuvendil said:
Soundwave said:
Nuvendil said:
It is an improvement, I will give you that. But people I think vastly underestimate the power of good marketing. The difference between "kiddy" and "core" is often as simple as a color or a marketing misstep (GameCube). Nothing *makes* the Wii U a "family" console other than Nintendo keeps making it out to be one in their commercials. It is certainly compatible with the "family gaming" concept with a lot of local multiplayer options, but if that makes it "family" than most consoles have been "family" :P


Have you ever considered that Nintendo actually likes and wants the family/kids-console stigma? Because they constantly renforce it. 

Their first console ever was literally called the "Family Computer", Nintendo won't divorce themselves from the "family console" concept. 

They don't have to divorce but they have to diversify.


And it's also their method for targeting the family.  Rather than emphasizing they bring something to the table for everyone, they target one small subset in the most pandering way possible.  Which makes their device look so embarrassing to own that most of the family doesn't want it.  So as a result, their "family orriented ads" accomplish nothing for any demographic.

I'm not saying I disagree with that, but that's the system they made -- a family-oriented console. They don't have any of the big third party IP that core gamers would want so Nintendo can't market to them, they have no credibility with that audience. 

At least with the family crowd, Mario Kart, Mario, and all the other family friendly Nintendo IP still has some potential sway. I guess Nintendo's grabbing onto whatever they can since it's not a great situation with the Wii U to begin with. 

Moms/dads still look at Nintendo as the wholesome, fun family company. I remember when I was reading about that angry mom who got the Breaking Bad toys banned from Toys R' Us (lol) she specifically said something like "how can you sell these types of toys next to wholesome good kids brands like Barbie and Super Mario?".