Destiny caused 500k+ returns of PS4.

[DonFerrari]

prinz_valium said:

DonFerrari said:

prinz_valium said:
okay because all u guys dont know i will tell u:

sony ps4 shipments end of june 10.2m
sony ps4 sold through 12th august 10m
sony ps4 shipments end of september 13.5

so after 10.2m shipped ps4, it took sony 1 1/2 month to sold through the same number
my best guess is 13.5m sold through ps4 the week before gtaV/far cry/lpb3 realse


its normal to have 1 1/2 month of sales sitting on shelfs, at distributors and in transit

Man you should really start respecting people with longer story here. They may know a lot more than you on the tracking... don't forget your completly out of reality.

VGC have PS4 250k undertracked for 10M announcement. And have just been extra underput 200k just this week, plus some estimated 150k undertracked in the period.

But you can keep underestimating PS4 as you like to do.

what is wrong with u?
all beside my last guess are official sony figures. u want to denie them?

stop overestimating urself and ur knowledge of anything sales and distribution related

and i do not defend any vgc numbers here. ur just cherrypicking. ps4 is still overtracked 95k end of september in the us. so who cares if it is undertracked 200k on the 10m announcement. thats just within the normal range of error. come back if its 500k - 1m of under-/overtracking

Nothing wrong with me, just your attitude.

Won't deny them, just your conclusion.

I'm not overestimating myself, as I don't think I'm a good (or old member) analyst. But just other day your were using even worst tone to a user that have been analysing numbers in here since 2007 and threated him as if he didn't even know what the sales mean.

I'm not even claiming undertracking here. And overtracking on USA don't reflect in anyway on RoW (vgc was 750k undertracked WW even with over 100k overtracked in USA). Don't worry we will see 1M undertracked soon enough. And ioi wasn't evenaccepting that he undertracked and insinuated Sony was lying.